What Happens When Privacy Dies And Purpose Leads

A case gets “wrapped up,” but the questions don’t disappear. We open with the Nolan Wells situation and talk plainly about why official timelines and conclusions can feel more like damage control than real justice, especially for families of color dealing with an uneven court system. We’re not here to sensationalize tragedy, we’re here to name what people keep noticing and why accountability still matters when the headlines move on.

Then we pivot into the wild world of AI virality. That orange-background mic clip is everywhere, and it sparks a bigger conversation about AI filters, identity, and how easily the internet can remix a person into something they’re not. We also take a moment to honor Takeoff and talk about how legacy lives online, for better and for worse, when algorithms decide what gets seen and what gets buried.

September being suicide prevention awareness month brings the episode back to what’s real. We talk about checking on your people, especially the dependable friend who always pours into others. From there we get into dating and boundaries: age brackets, what changes when you’re older, and why “swap phones for the day” isn’t our definition of trust. Privacy is not the enemy, and purpose is still the clearest filter we’ve found.

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Welcome And Quick Set Up

SPEAKER_00 0:47

Good. Let's get it. Yo, what's happening? Yo, it's uh there's always um Pops the Sun conversations. Come on, you know what it is. Yeah, it's it's it's let's let's do the formalities though. Right, right, right. So it's your favorite cell, Fox Rob Malloy. You already know who it is. It is. Javen, aka Mr. Check three times, Mr. Poet, if you didn't know it. Yeah. Yeah, better recognize. Gotta know that. Yeah. Um, man, you know, so much to cover in a short period of time, but uh, but I do want to jump into this because we got some really, really good stuff uh this particular episode. Um,

Nolan Wells Case And Doubts

SPEAKER_00 1:31

but I I think, man, we just have to kind of jump in on the uh Nolan Wells case. It looks like um, you know, the states and the courts of Mississippi trying to wrap it up and get it behind them. Right. Yeah. So I think we kind of I wouldn't say we predicted it, but we did kind of speak on it a few pods ago. Yeah. And just kind of my my table was like, man, I want justice. I want them to get to the bottom of it. I want, you know, if there's somebody to be held accountable, they need to be held accountable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and so it turns out this I didn't find anybody to be held. What they say it was it was drowning? He drowned? They sticking to it, man. Yeah. They sticking to the drowning. Um, even even with all the the weird findings with, you know, they holding on to his phone and strange things. Yeah, man. Strange. I mean, the the things that you would it's like it points to foul play. I mean, it it does. I I don't I don't see how anybody can look at it and say, you know, there's not something funny going on. Yeah. But, you know, I I I hate to say it, but I'm not I'm not completely surprised. No, not in the world that we live in.

unknown 2:53

Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

And not in the uh the court system or the injustice system that we live in. Uh it it it's still uh definitely a lot of imbalanced activity going on. You know, and and even with the um, you know, even with attorney crumping them and being involved in, you know, uh it's almost like they was trying to attack him for, you know, trying to dig into all his findings and stuff. It it was it was a lot of um technicalities on how they kind of threw off the total subject of of what the facts are or what, you know, just too many, too many things not matching up, man. So um prayers out to the to the uh Wells family and all that. And I'm sure I mean it's not over. Yeah, I was about to say there's gotta be some more steps they could take. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know, I don't know. But the sa the saga continues, man, for people of color in the justice system. Yeah, I mean, it it's it's kind of crazy too, because it's a lot of different just in in that same rim. Yeah, you know, we passed um, you know, Lil Durk got off on his charges. Right. He was charged with like, I think like five different council stuff. He was found not not guilty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um I think uh we talked about what's his name? The guy that uh was responsible for Tupac murder. Oh yeah, yeah. They screwed him up, right? Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I think he It's not funny, but it is. Because but he was dumb though. He wrote a book. Yeah. He went on a uh podcast and talked about how he knew about how he murdered himself. Yeah, yeah, he did it to himself. Yeah, but uh, you know, I also think honestly, that was also a uh that was a distraction of what's really going on, man. I was thinking that too, because it was a lot of different cases going on at the same time. Right, right. And it did seem like why is our yeah, yeah. So anyway, man, you know, uh again, like you said, throwing some prayers to the Welt and Ola Wells family. Uh and I know uh Mississippi is feeling some type of way. Um that's a constant fight. It's kind of one of those states where you know it's gonna be a constant, it's gonna be a constant fight uh for those of color. But uh, you know, so prayers out, man. Um

Viral Clips, Takeoff, And AI

SPEAKER_00 5:24

on another note, on another note, uh, so this viral clip going on with this orange background and the microphone and all that, it's really blowing up. It's blowing all the way up. And you know, I actually saw uh Quavo reposted. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he was like, yo. Like, let me reclaim this. The original writer. This is the original, this is where it came from. The real Slim Stadic Kings. Big shout out. Man, you know, it's still a sad situation. Still a sad situation. The best amigo, man. Yeah. That was my favorite Migo. RP Takeoff. Yeah. But I do like to see that, you know what I'm saying, that just kind of give you that reminder, kind of let his legacy live. Yeah, for sure. You know, kind of remind people that, you know what I'm saying, just how great, how great he was. Yeah, yeah. I remember when that when they when it first came out, it was big then. That was a big deal when they first did the um it was to me, it's still the best record. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. By far, I mean they got some really good records, man, but that that record was now that was only them two though, right? Yeah, that was just uh I think they came out with a project called Unk and Few. Actually, I think that's what they were supposed to come out with before he passed away. They didn't even get a chance to release it. But yeah, so that kind of leads into this AI craziness, though. Because that's what that's that's how they're doing it. They use the AI. They they put in, uh, I didn't see who's some of the people you saw? Who who's the funniest one? Um, let me think. Uh popularity-wise, I didn't really pay attention to to who you know who was the funniest. I saw one dude, he did it with his dog. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So so that was kind of funny, but um, you know, and I be seeing my homies and stuff, you know, and I'm like, nah, no, bro. First of all, on here you look like you're 6'2, 6'3, and I know you're not. That's not true. You know what I mean? So, and and folks is like they really playing with that height situation, man. No, you can't, hey, man. Hey, I'll let you let you do whatever you want. Fantasy, bro. Yeah. It's a fantasy line. Yeah. So who do you see that was funny? Oh, man, they so many of them. It's a lot. I saw um, I saw they did one uh with Will Smith and Martin Lawrence. That one was dope. Um I imagine so. It was a dude from um, I don't know if he watched this, uh, Beauty and Black. Okay. The Netflix show they had, they had them two up there. Which, which, which ones? Uh I don't know the actor's name. Okay. But I know his name on the show is uh uh uh Mr. Bellery, they call him. It's the old guy. Oh, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rico, man. Yeah, yeah. Okay, Rico who? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um I know the character name on the show is Angel.

unknown 8:22

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

Like the light skinned dude. Um that's funny now that you put that together. Yeah, that was. I can see why. I can see why. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was crazy. That's funny. Did you see uh Fred Sanford and Hunk? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. I saw that, I saw that, I saw that. Crazy, man. They should have had, they should have had Fred and Lamont, though.

unknown 8:43

Man.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

But on Esther. I don't, yeah, it's it's it's just it's how red is. It's too much, man. It's too much. But it's but but hey man, have fun. Like it's it's fun. Take your mind off uh uh, you know, everything can't be serious, because it's way too much serious stuff if you start focusing on that.

Suicide Prevention And Checking In

SPEAKER_00 9:01

Speaking of serious, um, you know, we're still in September, which is suicide prevention. Right. You know, um suicide prevention um month, uh suicide prevention awareness. So, you know, I I used to I used to be like, hey man, that's so silly, and why would somebody do that? But if this gets them to the next day. Oh yeah, for sure. And then the next day is better, or just kind of gives them some positive uh reinforcements, man, then you know, as long as it's not hurting anybody, man, have fun. You know, a lot of times it can be something small like that. Yeah. You know, that helps a per that that makes that difference. Because you never know what somebody got going on. You know, I I'm gonna be honest, I don't know anybody personally. Like I haven't lived through that. Yeah, but I've heard stories from other people, and a lot of times it seems like it's almost like it's a people that you don't expect. That's right. Seem like their life is going pretty good. Yeah. They ain't they ain't got no major problems. Right. It don't seem yeah, it don't seem so with that being said, you know, just make sure you check in on your people. Always check on your folks. Yeah. That person that's that's strong, man. Mm-hmm. It ain't nothing to just just just reach out. Yeah. Reach out family and friends for sure. It it do be the ones that that seem like um anytime you ask for something, they got you, uh, the ones that are really reliable, dependable. And and a lot of times it's also the ones that reach out the most, that nobody checks back up on them because they figure that, you know, they always high energy, they always got positive affirmations and look out for everybody, but but they they uh they're not refilling. Right. You know, so that's uh always a major issue. I always think about is there anything that serious that you can't really mend to be on amicable terms? Yeah. Like it don't have to be like it was, you don't have to be as tight or whatever, but what has been that serious to where if you can't communicate or you lose complete contact with that person and you're never able to see him again? Like, well what's that serious? What is that serious to where, you know, you hold on to something so tight? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I know there's probably some people that can think of a couple things, but I I I don't. Like I'm not I don't hold grudges. I I don't I'm pretty I'm pretty mellow with that type of stuff because I feel like life is too short. Can be for some, right? Can be. There's definitely no guarantees. Tomorrow's not guaranteed. Yeah, that's right. Every day like that. Yeah, every day just like that, man. Yeah.

Question Of The Day On Dating

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Um, you know, I want to go ahead and jump into the question of the day. I didn't want to go there first. I really kind of want to get into that subject matter. But let's jump into the question of the day and get it over with. All right, let's do it. All right, man. Uh, so we had, uh y'all know how we do this. You know, you guys send your questions in, you comment on episodes. So we had somebody write in and they asked us if we had ever been interested in the same woman. Hmm. What where did y'all get that question? I don't I don't understand. Like, so so from what time period too, though, right? Like, was it since you've been 30? Yeah. Because when when I was 40, you was in the 20. Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know. Uh so I'm trying to think. I think that we have similar tastes as far as, you know, she's a nice looking woman, right? I think that, right? But but when it comes to like if I would holler at her, or you would holler at her. No, I don't think so. No. No, I don't think so. I don't, plus man, I don't so that brings me into this, man. Like this kind of bounces. We can talk about the type, but I still want to I want to know if um dating younger, dating your age, or or dating a little bit older. So when it comes to that, man, how you feel about how you feel about uh those those brackets, age brackets. For me. I'm not going too young. I'm really not going too old. Okay. I'd probably say like it's like three and three. Okay, three and three down. Yeah, three up, three down. Okay, three up, three down. Exceptions can be made. Because everybody, like, some people, hey, some people in charity is different. Some sometimes the chemistry is just different. And then you you rethink age.

unknown 15:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

I done been there before where I don't even care about the age just because we got that chemistry. The vibe is nice. Yeah, it's different. So I but just as a general rule of thumb, yeah, like I don't want to go too too high or too low. Yeah. Kind of I like to stay in my bracket. In my age range. I think that's good for you, though. I I think because of your age, man, I think your age is a prime age of kind of understanding who you are, coming into your own. Yeah. Knowing what would be a distraction. Facts. And then also knowing what could possibly help you on your journey to elevation. And so I think that's a cool age. For me, man, I don't get a whole lot of grace. You know what I mean? If I date younger, it's like, oh, you taking advantage, you playing you grooming. Grooming. Grooming, you mean like my beard? That's the only grooming I know. Right. Making sure that my clothes is together, that's the. But that's what you see. Nobody saying that to you, though. That's just the conversation on that. That's true. Nobody is. I ain't nobody saying. But but you know, I don't be out like that either. If if I was out and about, man, I had a little YT with me. I can only imagine the. I think the cameras will be out on now. Y'all know what a YT is, right? Do they know what the YT is? They may not. YT. Okay, YT, Young Tinder. You know that. Young Tinder, man. That's what it is. If I could think of something else, YT. What could it be? I don't know, YouTube. You know? No, but but not. Bunny hopping. I can oh yeah, yeah. YT, they do use that for like white people. Yeah, they do, right? White. But I could, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny how the internet comes with all the different slang. You try not to get blocked and stuff. Try not to unique ways of filters, man. That's crazy. As if we even, man, ain't no censorship no more anyway. Nah, it's not, man. So I I um I'm trying to think. I haven't really um dated younger. I mean, now that I'm 50, I'll be 51 next week. Good three. But what is but my brack, so I I don't, I don't really know. You know what I mean? I I don't think that a lot of women my age, and that's like mid-40s and uh maybe low, early 50s, they they like 50-50. You know, some of them they just assume I'm a certain way. Okay. They assume that maybe there's some arrogance there. Uh they assume that I'm unapproachable. And I'm like, man, what are you going by?

SPEAKER_01 17:55

Right.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Because I don't even know. If you meet me out and about, do you know what type of person I am? And and I don't, do I have a mean streak on social media? I just post fun stuff, right? Right. Simulating uh activity, but um I I haven't date dated younger, um like maybe early 40s, maybe mid-40s, I did venture out a little bit. You know, I was like, you know, the youngins. And that was really, it was before the the salt and pepper. Like before the salt and pepper, the the you know, the youngins. The young'ins, but I mean, but now the youngins for real now. Yeah, yeah. So I I think I don't know, man, the white beard mode really changed things because it's like grandma like me, shautie like me. And then and then and then the little, you know, the little YTs, man. So I don't even really know what they really want from me. Somebody let me know. Hey, man, that's that's gotta be a I mean, that's that's gotta be an interesting point, though. Yeah. Just like a position of being, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, man. I mean, did you envision that? Like, did you ever feel like Well, honestly, man, you know, my ultimate goal was, you know, to be married forever, you know, have the family, the grandkids, kids, and stuff like that. So, you know, I didn't necessarily want to be a bachelor in my 50s. You know what I mean? The the the goal is to continue to build the legacy, watch the generations continue to develop and stuff like that. So um being single slash unmarried in my 50s now is really interesting, but it makes me more appreciative of family and in my time. So I value my time a lot more now. You know, so uh so I could I could travel, um, I can do different ventures now uh without somebody being like, hey, you know, you need to come home, you've been out. Yeah, you already know. You already know, man. You already know if I had a page and my page would be blowing up. I'm okay. You got to location, though. Come on, the location, man. I ain't doing that, man. Off subject, do you believe at some point that you you and your lady when you're in a relationship,

Phone Privacy And Relationship Trust

SPEAKER_00 20:25

that y'all can just swap phones? Do you want to get to that point? Do I want to swap to that point? Do you want to get to the point to where you can swap phones for the day? She got access to your DMs, access to your text messages. Is that do you ever desire that? Because I want people to understand something. I don't. I don't desire that. Because to me, I don't, I don't desire that. And I don't, I don't want, like, I don't want to go through your phone and look. Listen, I feel like this, this is genuinely how I feel. Yeah. I think privacy is dying. I think it's dead. Yeah. And I think that it has evolved because people are getting so comfortable with oversharing, so comfortable with just like, no. Like some things you can keep to yourself. Right. You don't, nobody has to know. Like, soon enough, our thoughts are, we ain't even gonna be able to have a man. Right, when the bubbles on top of a heavy reading. No, I I want my spouse, my partner, to have some things to herself. Like, that's cool because you need to have that just the same way I got some stuff that only I need to know. It's in my phone. That's right. So I don't want to give you my phone and you looking through my stuff. It may be stuff in there about you that you don't need to know. But I just might have got it off my chest. Like it just get it just gets sticky, man. Because I agree. I agree with you on that. Yeah, you shouldn't hold somebody to because then it's like if you go through my phone and you see something you weren't supposed to see, it's like now you're gonna hold that against me. And it may be a misunderstanding. It may be a misinterpretation, a misunderstanding. Exactly. And you and what's crazy is you could really get caught up in that type of stuff because there's certain things that you're not gonna have control of, right? Somebody may shoot you a DM, you don't even know them, and they hit you with the, hey, baby, I wish that you know you was mine, or can you meet? They may, you know, you may not even know them. Right. But because it's in your DM, it could be misconstrued. Oh, you with this person right now? Right. This was a random DM. Random. Right. You deleted all the other messages. What? Right, all the ones before that? Oh man, hey, you know, you know, women, man, they are they're the running backs, man. Yeah, running backs. But they'll take it and they go straight to the hole through it, man. All the way to the end zone. For real. Right. That's done. Touch down, man. But nah, yeah, I just, yeah, with me, man, I'm not swapping phones. But then to I just don't understand why. Like, why do you want to do that? There's no if if that's your definition of trust or having to, you know what I'm saying, that's how you want to express that, oh, we trust each other so much. Yeah, I I don't, I don't look at that like that. It's gotta be, when I think about, you know, remember this open book policy and stuff like that, I feel like it is some old trauma. Oh, yeah. That a person is experiencing, and they just don't want to deal with the potential of it happening. When in fact, man, you should be going into a relationship with a clean slate. You can't take your old traumas into a new relationship. Yeah. So um, yeah, that's a mess, man. That's a mess. But uh, I want to get back to your type. I know we run out of time. Oh, yeah. But so let me just let me just clear it up for me.

Dating With Purpose And Standards

SPEAKER_00 23:43

Uh I I I don't know. I don't know. I think that women around my age, we we have a lot more in common. Okay. You know, we may have grandkids in common, we may have uh the same amount of kids or multiple kids. Been married before. Um so you know, when you get when you go down to a little bit younger for me, you know, she may never have kids and she looking at me, man. I can't I can't drop, I can't drop that first one for you, man. Oh man. No way. Amen. Right, nah, man. That means she would be mad. She'd have to be mad young too, you know, to make sure this the baby's healthy and all that. Right, right. You gotta take all that to a lot of things. Nah, nah. So uh and then and then the older women, I I I know this more seasoned women, um, they their mindset is like young chicks because they're so aggressive and they they feel like they know every like I know how to take care of a man. You you're not gonna want for nothing. You're gonna be at home with your feet up and all I ain't say I wanted that. Right. Maybe all I want to do is drop a zoom, zoom, zoom and a boom, boom. Like, I'm trying to take off. Right. Like, no, we're not gonna be at the house on the rocking chairs, man. Eating rich oatmeal. I I I I can see that, but for me, it's like um it's I ain't gonna lie, it's been gravy. Yeah. It's been kinda great. Hey man, you do do you feel like I know, I know you we do got a question, but give me the contrast between So dating in your 50s now. Yeah. I know you know you've married, but dating younger, like what is what is is there really a big difference? Cause you know, me now dating my 30s, I imagine it's not gonna be the same, even just like the same experience overall dating. I know it's like we have more options, is that yeah, but outside of that, I'm like, I ain't really got no complaints right now. And I know and I'm in the opposition, right? We kind of had this conversation before, and I had a different, a different stance. Yeah. But I've been here a little bit longer, seen a little bit more. Right. And yeah, I mean, you raised your own bar. Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a that's a when you raise your own bar, it's very different because now you have this no nonsense, uh, no tolerance for for certain um type of situations that you can foresee now. Right? You're like, okay, nah, that's gonna be the problem. Yeah, all right. That's gonna be an issue. So you can cut it off early versus, you know, a little bit younger, you want to give them a chance. Maybe they had a bad, maybe I'm the one, maybe I'm their savior. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So so different, different situations, but I'm telling you, she don't want to be saved. I'm telling you, I'd say that now that I'm seasoned, whether I'm in my 50s or not, uh, I'm I'm a lot more uh mature in terms of me knowing who I am, you know, and and having that self-worth, not chasing women, um, you know, and knowing that I found my purpose and that's my focus. So when you find your your purpose and you're so focused, a lot of the attributes that people like, but specifically women like because they know that you uh are consistent, right? Because you're consistent in your purpose. They know you discipline, because you discipline in your purpose, and they know that you believe in alignment because now just because they got a nice little body, they got stuff going on, baby got more than that, right? Because what you attract, you can attract a variety of different types of women. And when it comes to that, man, it's all about uh alignment with your per with your purpose because you know there's so many beautiful women out here that are accustomed to guys doing anything for them because they look good, because they, you know, got some stuff going on, the green up and all that, right? But at the same time, the man that they want is really a higher caliber than these guys that are worshiping them. Yeah. And so that actually makes him more valuable because the high-value woman, if you will, wants the high-value man, and then all the other women want him too. So it's kind of like now you you have to be selected. You have to be selected, right? So I think they garner that a little bit more than some guy that's gonna do everything, give him their money, and you know, they're gonna get bored with that guy. Like, dang, you ain't got nothing to do. Yeah. Why are you over here? Why am I over here? So that gets crazy, man. But uh, so backpedaling a little bit, to answer the question, no, we have not been interested in the same one. No way. Whoever. Yeah. I ain't gonna I ain't gonna put you on blast. I ain't gonna put you on blast. Right. That was crazy though. Yeah, that was a wild answer, man. You know, folks. I mean, I I guess in today, in today's society, I'm pretty sure that there's uh a lot of those issues going on, man. But that's not us, man. Not us, you know. Um I'm actually I'm stripped on the woman that he decides to choose because she got she got to come with it because you know, because of the elevation, man, and um, you know, us, you know, us men, yeah, once we lock in, man, we can elevate quickly, um, especially with no distractions. Yeah, for sure. You know, get into the money, you know what I'm saying, getting your finances together, knowing your your uh personal health, mental health, physical health. I don't understand, man. They don't get it. I don't think they even explain it to them. Mm-mm. Nah, you know, I think a lot of times women are motivated. You you know when I see women are the most motivated, seems to be after a breakup. Before getting themselves back on the market. You know what I'm saying? They cut their hair off, right? Fresh start. Yeah. They they eating right. They get they they get in that body together, right? Because the the advertising and marketing be crazy, right? Yeah. And it's like they they literally are rebuilding their brand. After a sister is in a breakup, don't let it be a bad breakup. Once she snaps out of it, it's almost like she wants him to see the reglower. Yeah. No, I ain't blocking him. Matter of fact, she might be adding his friends to her account so that he can see through them. Because you know, they're gonna comment and be like, hey, hey, Tony messed up. Tony shouldn't have messed up. Hey, Tony. But no, you you yeah, you're completely right. I'm I'm saying for it. Because even the advertisement, the marketing, they're doing stuff that they never would do. The the twisted, the twisted poses, like we ain't never seen her cheeks before. Oh now all of a sudden we can see her cheeks. We ain't never seen her in the fit in the uh two-piece workout, yeah. Thonged out, going crazy. We ain't never seen that before. So when you start seeing that, that's what that means. They just got out to break up. Yeah. And it's all yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. Especially when she was more conservative uh before, and now all of a sudden, man, she an extrovert. She an influencer now. Man, uh so was that did that emerge from Instagram or was there like a what was it before the gram? Like, did they still do that and just was out like out and about, you know what I'm saying? It was yeah, before the major social media, because there's always been social media stuff. There's always been the black planet, there's always been the tagged and all this other stuff. And so, you know, they advertise on there, man, but I mean, um Facebook's been around for a long time now. Yeah, you are. So, yeah, so uh they they've been at it, man. I mean, you can always tell when a woman is either going through something or done with them. She's gonna make it known, she's gonna be seen. Yeah. She'll make sure she's seen, man. Popping out. Literally. Literally, front and back. Sometimes you gotta pop out. All right, man. Let's wrap this thing up, man. So we're the question of the day. We got that out the way. So we finally went

John Witherspoon Tribute Goes Viral

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viral on our. Oh, man, we did it. At least on Facebook, right? Yeah, on the book. On Facebook, and um it was crazy. So we we uh definitely decided that we wanted to pay homage to the the late, great um, what's the name? Mr. John Witherspoon. Mr. John Witherspoon, man, R. P. Pops. Pops. That's all I know of, man. Pops ass man, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Mr. Bang Bang. You know, uh, and he he was in the acting world for such a long time that people really didn't realize it until he was older. I think he really showed out in uh in Boomerang. Um Eddie Eddie Mo Eddie Murphy. Oh boomerang, and he had to coordinate. You gotta coordinate. That's where that comes from. That's where that came from, man. Yeah, I ain't even remember that was Pops, did you? I don't even I might have saw I might have saw that movie one time. Yeah, that's true. But I remember that because you got to coordinate, right? Yeah, because Ludacris rabbed it. Of course. In the joint. That's why I found that phone. Yeah, so uh Pops, man. Pops been around it, of course. You know, the Wayne, uh, the Wayne Brother show. That's uh so yeah, Mr. John Williams from man. He's better. So um we went viral because we reposted his son. Now, what's his son's name? Uh, what is it? J D? I think it's JD. Okay. Is he not a junior? I don't know if he's a junior or not. JD, you're gonna have to let us know, brother. Because he he was on the post. Yeah, he was on the post. He was like, hey, that's me. Right, so so the post was it, Joe Rogan? Oh, yeah, yeah. So they went on a Rogan podcast. Rogan Pod, okay. And his son did this hilarious impersonation of his dad. Of his dad, yeah. And everybody knows how he talked, you know. He was spot on, man. He was spot on. Look, if if uh if his dad was mad, he was mad because he was spot on. Like, where else is he gonna get the material from? Right? It's not like he made it up. Right. Or it's from a movie. Yeah. He was like, this is what I can do, is I can tell y'all how he talks to me. Yeah. And then that's how he went into it. That's it. That's it. And he was he was he was gonna do it there, though. He got to do a win. He was on it, man. Oh man. So yeah, it's hilarious. Hilarious, man. So shout out. So we we knew that the clip was gonna do well. We didn't know it was gonna go that crazy on Facebook. I think currently, it's what it 3M, 3.4, 3, something like that. Like 3.5? Yeah, like 3.5 million. And uh, I'm glad that we were able to pay homage because I don't know how many people knew that, you know, his son was of that age, and that his son is actually a professional comedian as well. I didn't know that he had a son. I don't I don't, yeah, I don't think I knew that either. If I did, I didn't know that he was of that age. Yeah, I didn't know. And he had, you know, a career in comedy and stuff like that. So it was amazing to see. Yeah, it was cool to see them together like that. It was dope that they went on the you know, on the bridge. Yeah, man. As opposed to him just being on Roger by himself. He brought a son with him. Brought a son with him, man. So that was, yeah, that was super cool. And I don't even know when that was. I think it was like seven years ago. Okay. It's an old, it's okay. Yeah, the the podcast is old. Um, so yeah, the clip is good. Yeah, because the quality ain't even really that good. As it as it could have been. Right. Yeah, you can tell it's that. You can tell got a little age on it. So uh, yeah, man. So that was good. Yeah, it was good. So we we we still doing numbers, you know, but that that lets us know to continue to push the narrative of father and son relationships, whether uh, you know, they're both still together or, you know, unfortunately they not. Um just kind of paying homage to the relationships of father and sons. Yeah, that's the move, baby. That is the move, man. Speaking of father's sons, man, that's it. Oh, man, that's it.

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You gotta watch on us? Hey, hey. Skin time, remember that?

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Yo. Skin time. Yo, one day I'm gonna get all the references. My pops be throwing these references at me. I don't be knowing what are you talking about. Skin time. You never heard that before? No, what that's true. So we when you ask somebody what time it is, right? And they don't have a watch, they say it's skin time. If y'all remember that, type that in the wherever you see yourself. Skin time, man. That's generation X. That's bad. That's a Gen X, though. That's Gen X. We got some. We got we got our own thing, man. Nah. Nah, we we had some, but it was we didn't, we didn't say that. I can't. I don't remember what what it is. Yeah, man. Skin time for sure, man. What we did.

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All right.

Gen X “Skin Time” And Goodbye

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Yeah, yeah.

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We out of here though. We we go, man. Check us out next episode. As always, your favorite father or son duo, Pops and Son Conversations. Rama Louis, favorite Shield Fox. Devon Tech three times, checking out. All right, peace. Peace.