Pops and Son Conversations
Join US Air Force Veteran, Presidential Achievement Award Recipient, author, philanthropist, and social media influencer, Rob Malloy, and his son, author and model, Javan Anderson, as they navigate the generation gap with humor and heart.
On this podcast, Rob and Javan tackle a wide range of topics – from life lessons and fatherhood to current events and pop culture – offering a unique blend of old-school wisdom and new-school perspectives. Expect lively debates, unexpected insights, and plenty of laughs along the way.
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Pops and Son Conversations
Episode 2: Navigating Financial Independence: A Pops and Son Discussion
Can parents ever truly cut the financial cord with their children, or is support a lifelong journey? Join me, Rob Malloy, and my son Javan, as we wrestle with this age-old dilemma. We share personal insights and stories on maintaining a healthy balance between fostering independence and offering support, underscoring the importance of boundaries to prevent unhealthy dependency. We also ponder the societal expectations that push young adults out of the nest and explore whether a longer stay at home might actually equip them with better tools for financial success.
Challenging conventional wisdom, we also unpack the idea of family businesses as a vehicle for creating enduring legacies and financial stability. Drawing from real-world examples, we argue that family enterprises can offer not just financial benefits like tax breaks and funding but also the intangible rewards of unity and shared purpose. By investing in a common vision, families not only ensure their collective prosperity but also lay the groundwork for future generations to thrive.
In our concluding thoughts, we tackle the pitfalls of being "house poor" and propose fresh perspectives on communal living and shared expenses to alleviate financial burdens. We question the cultural narrative that equates moving out with independence, suggesting that alternative living arrangements can foster long-term wealth and stability. As always, we express our deep gratitude for your support and invite you to keep the conversation alive by connecting with us on social media.
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All right, welcome to another edition, another episode Pops and Son Conversations. Yeah, it's me your favorite civil fox, rob Malloy.
Speaker 2:And it's me, son Javin, and I got another topic today. Before I get into that, though, Pops, how you feeling you doing?
Speaker 1:all right, I'm good, you know I have my tea with lemon, ginger and turmeric.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:The weather's been up and down, so I've just been trying to make sure I stay on top of things so I don't get caught slipping.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, got that potion over there. That concoction, I ain't mad at it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's a red cup too. Ain't that crazy.
Speaker 2:So let's go ahead and get into it. I got a question, I got a topic for the discussion. Okay, this is how I'm feeling right now. All right, let's do it. This is how I'm feeling right now. All right, it's kind of funny. So should parents cut off financial support? And if they should, at what point should they do it?
Speaker 1:wow, oh man, you know topic, I would say, has always been on the top controversial end when it comes to it. Because you know again we're talking about. You know we're here in the US, good old US of A, and so things are done differently. You know there's different laws here. When kids turn 18, they can do things. When they turn a certain age, they can emancipate themselves In 21, they're allowed to do certain things. In 25, they're considered so.
Speaker 1:It's so much of law and societal influence that people forget that. Hey, man, this is your house, this is my house. I do exactly what I want to do, and with my kids as well. So you know, when it comes to the financial influence and cutting out, I don't believe that there should be a cutoff period. I really don't. I think that it's an ongoing learning experience and you really want to make sure that your kids are equipped. So it's not going to be like, okay, well, you got a job and you need, you know, $20 for gas, or you got a job, don't ask me for no money.
Speaker 1:I think that that's. I think that's, that's too hood, that's too ghetto, because the thing about it is. And then I also believe that there is a double standard, right, because you might tell your son that, but you really going to tell your daughter. So what do you want her to get the money from then? Because she going to ask somebody else. Right, she going to ask somebody else, and she's going to ask somebody else. And now what? Is there an obligation to? Who she asked? So it's a slippery slope when it comes to it, but you know my first instinct, my first answer is there really shouldn't be a cutoff. Okay, along the way, jay, there should be some boundaries though.
Speaker 2:Of course, yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down.
Speaker 1:You always want things to be teachable moments and a learning experience, but I just don't feel like you should ever cut off unless they're just disrespectful and don't belong, you know, in the same house or in the same vicinity until they get themselves together. Um, I don't think there should be a cut off financially, man. What do you think?
Speaker 2:well, I I agree with you. I don't think there should be a cut off and I I agree that it's a learning experience and a growing experience. But I think my concern comes in when we think about the dependency versus the independence, right yeah, sure.
Speaker 2:So we got to think about the balance between helping and enabling the kids, because we already know you know kids from a young age. You know if you give them an inch they're going to take a mile. You know they're going to push the envelope and see how far or how much they can get. You know what I mean. So I think that it definitely has to be some boundaries, like you said where you were discussing all right, you know I'm going to help you with this, but you know, in this aspect, I expect you to be able to do this, that. And the third, like it has to be some type of accountability there. But I don't think there should be a cutout for financial support because, at the end of the day, you never know, Like you know, just in life it's ups and downs, in life it's ups and downs, and so you know, as a parent, I don't think that you stop parenting or stop being a resource for your kid just because they become an adult or just because they are out of the house or whatever the case is.
Speaker 2:Like you should still, you know, be some because, like you said, like if it's not going to be you, then who is it going to be.
Speaker 2:Where are they going to go when they need some help or they need some support?
Speaker 2:You know, it might be they might try to go somewhere that you, you know, might not necessarily agree with, but because you know, it's kind of a situation where you force their hand. It's like I know I can't ask you know, I know I can't ask my dad for no help on this. I know I can't ask, you know, I know I can't ask my dad for no help on this. So you know, let me go hit the block or something like that. Let me go and you know, figure something out. Like this is real stuff. So you got to think about that stuff when you know, when you're parenting, there's going to be situations and times in that child's life where they're going to need to even as an adult, you know, rely on their parents. So I just would hate for it to be a situation and I know it happens all the time but you know, I think that's unfortunate for parents to feel like they got to cut their kids off at a certain point. I don't think that's right.
Speaker 1:I don't either. Man and again, you know we're talking about the good? U? S of a man. There's different cultures out here.
Speaker 1:Uh, and I remember specifically, uh, I was working with a young man, um, on social media, uh, with content creation. He actually was an assistant for me for a while and you know he was was I think he was 18 years old and you know he lived in in india and he was talking about how, uh, the kids never move out the house, like ever. And I was like, how does that work? What if, you know, you get married and you have kids? It's like, okay, the, the parents make the decision to build a bigger house, you know, and he also was talking about how the parents, they stopped working, I think 45, 50 years old, and they take care of the kids like that's their, that's their job, they take care of the kids. So, if you think about a situation in the scenario to where everybody's in the same household now, situation in the scenario to where everybody's in the same household, now, of course a lot of people thinking, okay, well, third world country, they in a hut is three mud rooms, they ain't got no car, they got a bike with a basket. No, come on now. You know, obviously, if this is something that's been in the culture for centuries, then there's a system in play, right, like they buy a certain size house or another thing that he mentioned. He also says that they established a family business, so you have the opportunity to work in the family business, which, of course, will be passed down through generations. It's not like, hey, we just started and now we're trying to figure out how to make a profit. If this family business has been in the family for centuries, then obviously you know it has a rate of success that sustains the household and family.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I thought it was pretty, I thought it was pretty smart, I thought it was not just something that made sense but something that is mutually beneficial, because think about the safety of the family. Right, you kick your kid out at 18 years old because maybe they smelling themselves and they feeling grown and they want to wear tight clothes, or he want to button down to three buttons, so his bird chest is hanging out. So you kick him out of the house, right? Well, where is he going to go? No money, no resources. Maybe some so-called friends that he can go over there, or maybe he can go to his friends. And now his parents are looking at you like, okay, well, my son or my daughter are still here because I want to make sure that they're protected and prepared for the world, but here you are telling your son to get out your house because you know he want to wear a, a shirt, a specific shirt yeah but they're leaving the household unprepared.
Speaker 1:So I think, and again, you know not just my generation but our culture of just wanting to rush to the empty nest, jay, I think is insane to me.
Speaker 2:Ah, I didn't even think about that aspect. I'm thinking about it right.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm thinking about it because you shouldn't feel comfortable having an empty nest if your little chickies ain't able to fly.
Speaker 2:That's facts.
Speaker 1:Right, like, come on, you're not worried about where they're at, what they're doing, how they're doing things. And let's be real, if kids are unprepared and they leave the house or kicked out the house unprepared, eventually they coming back. Hopefully they don't come back with a bunch of kids. Hopefully they don't come back in a domestic violence situation. Hopefully they don't come back on drugs, on alcohol you got to think about that stuff. Are they truly prepared? Do they know how to balance their account? Do they know how to manage money, manage their time? Do they really understand how to clean themselves properly?
Speaker 2:Oh man.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, do you really know? And so again, once they leave your house, since it's your house, what are you setting them up for? And if you think about it, jay, if you think about it, a family that has a family business, that believes in family legacy, that believes in generational health and generational wealth, mm-hmm, then how would, or why would, they want their child or their children to leave the nest unprepared? And what better way to ensure is to be able to contribute by taking care of the kids, by, you know, making sure that they understand the ins and outs of the family business. And I'll say this and I'll let you, I'll let you have it.
Speaker 1:But my Indian buddy, I asked him, I had a bunch of questions. Here I am almost 50 years old, asking this 18 year old about culture. Here, I am almost 50 years old, asking this 18 year old about culture. And I was fascinated because I had so many questions. Ok, so what about they get married? Ok, well, they get married. And then they move into the house. I said, ok, so what if they have kids? Ok, the parents decide to get a bigger house. And I was like, ok, well, what about money? How do they make money. Well, there's a family business in play. And when you think about it, jay, think about it when people from India come here, they don't come over here and get jobs. What do they do?
Speaker 2:No, they come over here and open up businesses. They got a business already, man.
Speaker 1:Isn't that? That's amazing, right, I have never seen and I'm going to just be 100% I've never seen somebody come from India, pakistan, different countries even if you want to talk about people from Asia to turn around and go over here and work for a grocery store. Nah, you ain't seeing it. I have never, seen it, never. And so it just makes a lot of sense when you start talking about, what comes to mind is the protection of legacy, the protection of generational wealth. Right, yeah, there's sacrifices, but the sacrifices are still built in the overall blueprint of the family, of the family legacy. And so, again, I was fascinated with what he was saying. You know, he was like, hey, you know, there's a family business at play.
Speaker 1:I said, well, what if? Because I was drilling them right Well, they want to be. What if they want to be a doctor? What if they want to be a lawyer? What if they want to, you know, not be in the family business? They said they are obligated to be in the family business until you meet your obligation, then you can't go outside of that. And I was tripping because, think about it, let's just say that you want to become an attorney. While you're becoming an attorney and you, hustling you, go and get what. Why you're becoming an attorney and you, hustling you go and get what you got to. Go get a little job and stuff like that right Got to. Why not work in the family business as you're getting your law degree? I thought that was gee. I was blown away, man. I was blown away because it makes so much sense. Why go out here and work for somebody else for a certain wage when you can contribute to the family business as you get your education, as you build another business, as you go your own path?
Speaker 2:It's all in-house, it all helps to generate more for the family and more for the legacy. I wonder why. I mean, all of that sounds great, it sounds ideal, yeah, but it makes me question what is up with that emptiness syndrome and what is the? Why do we in our culture feel the need to, you know, kick them out? And he brought up an even better point Nine times out of ten, somewhere along the timeline timeline they're gonna end up back at the house with you. So you really just, hey, you bought yourself a couple years, or you know, or whatever, that amount of time like, was it really worth it?
Speaker 2:When, when you think about it, they, if you had to, just at 18, if they stayed all right and you didn't kick them out, you give them the time to, uh, to build up the funds, to build up the literacy, build up the planning and then, whatever age they, you know, like you said, when they, when they, when their wings fully grow, you know, when they matured, they know how to hunt and get their own food you're not feeding them, mouth feeding them anymore then they can leave the nest and after that point you probably won't see them again because they got everything they need. But it just seems so counterintuitive and counterproductive to say, all right, you've grown, now the law says that you're an adult. The law says you can get your own spot, you can work and provide for yourself. Now is that time. Get out Like I don't agree with it, but it's, it's, it's more than common, like it's it's it's very normal to see that in um in our culture.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I just I do think about that and I wonder why, why it's like that. Now, with this guy that you were speaking to, that you got the info from, like I said, like that sounds, that sounds ideal. Like, all right, I'm married, we still moving in, we get a bigger house. Like it just seems like it could all be so simple and it work out perfectly that way. But the cutoff, like what is, with the emphasis on and this specifically to me, from what I've seen is like 18, like I, I left at 18, okay, but, um, that was after I had graduated and I was, you know, going to school.
Speaker 2:So it's not like I got kicked out, but I was ready. I think a lot of it too is, you know, we, ready. You know the kids are ready. Like they don't want, like they don't want the supervision anymore, they don't want to have to answer to anything. So it's not all on the parents, you know, I'll say it's not all on the parents as far as the cutoff, like the kids a lot of times are ready to, you know, just get out and explore and they don't want to have to answer to anybody and they don't want to have to come in at back at home at a certain time.
Speaker 2:But even then, on that side, if you, if you and it may be hard for you know, a young mind to grasp, but but even at that age, if you were to, you know, stay in the house, you know, listen to what mom and dad gotta say and just follow the rules, you know know, and not succumb to the peer pressure or whatever is going on or what, socially, you know, the society is saying you should be doing you really nine times out of ten. I mean, in that scenario, it's like you can't really go wrong. You know what I'm saying? There's a thousand ways to go wrong if you just hop out in the world at 18. Saying it's a thousand ways to go wrong, if you just hop out in the world at 18, there's not many ways, or many ways you can mess up.
Speaker 2:If you stay at home and do what you need to do and get financially, uh, um, understood and get your literacy up and and come up with a plan before you leave the house, like it just I don't know the culture behind it though it's just like, yeah, I gotta get out, I gotta get out. And then, like you said, the emptiness is like, yeah, I'm fine, you know, I got the house out of myself. Now, all the kids in college, then they all like, why do we? Why do we think about it like that? It's man, I wish we did have that mindset, like you said, of you know, building that legacy, building that, um, that family business too. I think that's really a big part of it. Like I don't even know if we think about the family business like that.
Speaker 1:That's exactly the point that I wanted to bring out, jay, because when you think about it you know it's all about that household dynamic. What does that household look like if it's dysfunctional? The kid gonna want to get out at 18 because he don't want to do that.
Speaker 1:if there's abuse going on, if there is just straight negative activity, ain't nobody trying to stay there? And at 18 you can at least be like I'm 18, I, I'm gone. So I think if we think about what that family structure and family dynamic looks like, is it a place where you can actually thrive, or are you better off just rolling the dice on your own? And I think that's what kids think Like okay you know what.
Speaker 1:All I do is I see mom and dad fighting, or all I see is mom and dad working. They don't have any time for family activities, unless it's. You know, they got to take off and then they complained that they had to take off to go to your game make you feel some type of way. There's no incentive to follow the footsteps of your mom, of your dad, because all they're doing is they're working or being overworked for somebody else. So, like you mentioned, if you talk about the family business, there's a confidence in that and you got to think that you also have access to different resources. Right, you're going to have a different lifestyle than than somebody else. Right, because your family understands about ownership. Right, so you have a family business, you're talking about ownership, so they understand. Even this is from a businessman standpoint. You're getting salary. You're getting tax deductions. Right, you're getting access to business funding. You, your family business has a corporate card. Come on, man for gas. Your business has a company car, so and this stuff is under the business, so your credit the light bill ain't under your name. The water bill ain't under your name, you know, I mean the trash ain't under your name. The life and lifestyle is different. Who would want to leave that? You would be a prodigal son or prodigal daughter to want to leave that.
Speaker 1:And again, when we talked about mentorship, like within mentorship, it's a process but it's also a program. So at the end of the program you're prepared, and even after a program there's an internship. So the internship is real world experience and this is where you get to tweak what you need to do. So I think that's phenomenal. That's something that our culture and not every culture. There's plenty, you know. There's plenty of folks that got family businesses, a family successful and and all the kids and they understand and they're even smart enough, dare I say, to buy land, the family land, whether it is five acres, 10 acres, a half acre, it is the family land. So you bought the land. Now you build whatever you want on your land.
Speaker 1:You own it. So imagine 10 acres, because that's really doable. If you're talking about a whole family putting their resources together, 10 acres Instead of one. You know sick a mom and dad and you want to move across the other side of town so they can't sneak up on you. Well, imagine having your own house on the family property on the family land, everybody's reaping the tax benefits.
Speaker 1:Ain't no need to borrow money because the family, I'm sure, has a family trust to where you can get. You know that's where the resources come from. So it is a whole nother level when we start having those conversations, jack.
Speaker 2:And that's what's important, pops. It's important to have these conversations because a lot of people don't know Everything you explained about the young gentleman and what he explained to you. I hadn't heard anything like because, yeah, we go out in the world and we see, you know you might go to the Chinese spot or whatever, whatever locally owned business, and you see everybody in there and you understand that. Okay, like, actually, you know, I got an example too. I worked for this guy who had a moving company in Pensacola and, believe it or not, the name of the moving company was Family First Moving and Storage, right, so it was a guy named Frank and his wife. She was always in the office and she was doing the calls, doing the dispatch and everything, and his daughter would be in there, I think she would be in there taking calls too, and then they had two other I think his daughter had two little girls and they would be in there sometimes too. So, like, I've seen that family business firsthand and you know it works. You know I never saw. Of course there's effort and there's time that you got to put in. Of course there's effort and there's time that you got to put in. But, like you said, at the end of the day, when you have everything that you need within the means of the family and everybody can sustain themselves, and you know you bring the land in, you bring the trust in everybody's good, financially, like you know, why wouldn't that, you know, be the ultimate goal to strive towards? So I think that we need to start having more of these conversations, understanding and learning how we could get something like that done. How can we accomplish that? Instead of this cutoff narrative and this all right, you this age and now you got to fend for yourself, it should be the complete opposite. You should turn 18 and start thinking about ways of how we can contribute and bring back to the family business and expand from there. You know, okay, you got married. That's cool too.
Speaker 2:Day in the family business too, we can figure out how we can make everything work. Because you know it's a cliche and we say all the time you know family, you know family is what's most important. But then we turn around and we do something like this and say, yeah, we family, but you know, get out of my house. So it's kind of like an oxymoron. It doesn't really make sense that way. It's kind of like an oxymoron. It doesn't really make sense that way. So the family business aspect and just culture we definitely got to get that narrative and that conversation going more Just open in general, just discuss it Like what family business would you start or what would you start with it?
Speaker 2:Maybe it's time to start second guessing and even for the kids, you know, start getting in their heads like, instead of trying to, you know, hop out in the world so early, you know, let's maybe work around some boundaries, because I think it should still be. You know, as a young adult, you want to explore and you want to have fun. You know you feel like you've been shackled or you've been sheltered. And now is the time. You know, I'm an adult now, but let's see if we can work with the parents, let's see if we can work with mom and dad and say, you know, I want to be able to experience my life on a different level now that I'm older and I can partake in certain things, but I still want to be able to do that and have respect for the house and have respect for myself, but also still be able to, you know, to enjoy my adulthood life.
Speaker 2:And this is going to have to be a conversation where you know y'all come to certain agreements on what it is. But, like I said earlier, there's this you got a million ways that can go wrong when you, when you leave too early, it's not too many things that can happen wrong. When you decide to stay in the house, stay with the fam, and hey look, we're not talking, you know, 10 years or whatever like a lifelong type of thing, you know. But definitely stay until you know you're at that point and at that level, to where the family business is where it needs to be, if it hasn't been established already, and you can reap the benefits. But, yeah, definitely a good conversation where it needs to be if it hasn't been established already and you can reap the benefits.
Speaker 2:But, um, yeah, definitely, definitely a good conversation, definitely something that, um, I want to to spread more awareness about because it just makes so much sense. It's just we gotta, we gotta switch that around. Man, that whole cut off and not, you know, I financially support you. You on your own type of mentality is not right. It just ain't right. Man, Family is family and it shouldn't stop being family after a certain age or after a certain you know point in the timeline. That's what I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'll actually add that it's really mutually beneficial, right, finishing up this conversation. It's mutually beneficial because, as the parents get older, we need help, we need assistance, we need to know that you know someone is going to look out for us as well. It is completely. Someone is going to look out for us as well. It is completely mutually beneficial, as you know that, and really I look at it as the family just staying together. Think about how many adult years that you miss learning from each other because you left the house at 18. You left the house at 18. You don't even get to experience the young lady becoming a young woman, the young man becoming a young man, watching him start his first business or watching him purchase his first asset not liability. You got to work on that as well. Right, that those type of things are some serious milestones in the generation, within the family tree, within the family dynamic, and so you got situations where the child left for 18, coming back at 2025. Now they got two kids, jay.
Speaker 2:Now they got six kids.
Speaker 1:Now they done been out in the streets for a year and a half, right. So now they've exposed themselves to things that they were not prepared for or never needed to have, never needed to be exposed to, but because their back was up against the wall, because they had to trust some people they don't normally trust, put themselves in positions that they you know, a young woman, a young man being put in an adult position. Now you have to come on back, anyway, when you shouldn't or didn't even need to leave, like what is so important to where the kids can't stay there, what you, what you're trying to do, what you're trying to get done, that you know the family couldn't mutually benefit from overall. You know I don't get it. So you know I'm thankful.
Speaker 1:And to me again, you're bringing in all of the resources. So if you over there and you paying $2,500 downtown in a high rise, that, yeah, you can afford it and that's cool and stuff like that, but you just starting out. So now you house poor. Yeah, you got a it and that's cool and stuff like that, but you just starting out. So now you house poor. Yeah, you got a nice little spot over there, but you got a futon, one table, one chair and the couch and the TV on one of the chairs, versus establishing yourself. And look, maybe you buy the condo but you lease it for a year and you pocket all that money for one year.
Speaker 2:That's it Would that have hurt?
Speaker 1:Would that have hurt for you to stay at the house and your brand new condo gets paid for for a year? How much money are you saving then? Yeah, big bucks, big bucks, no whammies man. Big bucks, no whammies man. Big bucks, no whammies. And so I think, if we work on that, that mindset, that thought process and I'm I'm gonna be honest, it is something that has been, that mentality has been passed down for generations. You know, uh, grandma, my dear big ma, and stuff like that, they tell you, oh you, oh, you grown, you smell of yourself. Well, you need to go ahead and get out.
Speaker 1:That's what they said to your grandmama. So your grandmama say it to your mama, so your mama say it to you. Well, granddaddy, great granddaddy, same thing. And so, instead of really thinking, does this make sense or is this an emotional moment that I'm making? Does it really make sense? Is it beneficial, does it go against or for the legacy build? And it can't. It doesn't make sense, it doesn't make it's no way logical sense at all. So there there's some things that we can take, uh, from other cultures that we have laughed at. For for decades, we laughed at a house full of folks, right?
Speaker 1:But, we didn't realize that if you got and I'm exaggerating, if you got 20 people in a five bedroom home, they're not going to stay there forever. Think about the money saved. How much is you really splitting on that rent or mortgage? 24 cup in there? You paying 30 cent a piece. You, you contributing 30 cent. You know, of course I'm exaggerating, but and that's not hurting you You're able to do things, you're able to function, you're able to get things that you need, you're able to stack, you're able to do a lot of things. Man versus. You got this big, nice house and you know 80% of your check every month go to the Morgan and you living paycheck to paycheck. Yeah, it don't make sense. Every month go to the mortgage and you living paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it don't make sense. Man Still going back to mom's house trying to get a plate, and all that.
Speaker 1:Shopping over there, mom. I remember shopping at my parents' house. Hey, what you doing? Hey, y'all got it. I need it. What you talking about? A little toilet paper.
Speaker 2:Come on, that's it.
Speaker 1:Paper towels, tp. Let me get these oranges. They about to go bad. You don't need them, y'all need them. Yeah, man, good stuff, jay, good stuff, man. This is one of the powerful conversations that I think and know people could benefit from, because, whether this is your scenario or not, we're all affected directly or indirectly, because those that have been put in position lend money to those that are struggling, right Like. That's your, that's your homie, you got to help out your homie. Your homie comes over to your place because you know his parents say hey, you too grown, you 6'5" and you wear a 2X, so you can't stay in my house. Just crazy stuff, man. Just insane scenarios that you never know, but true life moments that happen. That's it, man. So listen, guys, we appreciate you rocking with us. Uh, again, make sure that you tell somebody about this podcast, that you check us out on all our social media platforms and look, we'll be back with another episode, real, real soon.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, same time Right.
Speaker 2:Whenever?
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Speaker 2:It's been a good one, peace.
