Pops and Son Conversations
Join US Air Force Veteran, Presidential Achievement Award Recipient, author, philanthropist, and social media influencer, Rob Malloy, and his son, author and model, Javan Anderson, as they navigate the generation gap with humor and heart.
On this podcast, Rob and Javan tackle a wide range of topics – from life lessons and fatherhood to current events and pop culture – offering a unique blend of old-school wisdom and new-school perspectives. Expect lively debates, unexpected insights, and plenty of laughs along the way.
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- Candid conversations: Rob and Javan share their honest thoughts and experiences, providing a refreshing take on intergenerational relationships.
- Diverse perspectives: Hear how Rob's traditional values intersect with Javan's modern outlook, creating dynamic and engaging discussions.
- Humor and heart: Enjoy a show that's both entertaining and thought-provoking, leaving you with a smile and something to ponder.
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Pops and Son Conversations
Honoring the Queens: Celebrating Women's Impact on Culture and Society
The impact of women across culture, society, and history takes center stage in this heartfelt appreciation episode. Rob and Jay explore the remarkable achievements of women who have broken barriers and set new standards in multiple arenas - from sports phenoms like Cocoa Gauff and Angel Reese to political pioneers including Condoleezza Rice and Kamala Harris.
Their conversation spans entertainment, highlighting the powerful legacies of actresses such as Angela Bassett, Viola Davis, and Halle Berry, whose versatility and embodiment of their characters have left indelible marks on film. The musical landscape receives equal attention, celebrating voices that transcend generations - from Whitney Houston's intentional artistry and Ella Fitzgerald's jazz innovations to Beyoncé's groundbreaking achievement as the first woman of color to win a Grammy in the country music category.
Beyond recognizing famous figures, the discussion turns meaningfully to how men can better support women in their lives. Through active listening, validating experiences, creating safe spaces, and remaining consistent allies even when women aren't present, men can contribute to more equitable environments. As Rob and Jay emphasize, women's appreciation shouldn't be confined to a single month but should become a year-round commitment to honoring the women who shape our world in countless ways.
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Okay, welcome to another episode of Pops and Son Conversations. It is your favorite Silver Fox, Rob Malloy.
Speaker 2:And it's your favorite poet that you didn't even know it, Mr Check Three Times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, jamie. Look, man, we are embarking on the beautiful month of March, women's appreciation. Now, did you know that March was Women's Appreciation Month?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did, I did know that that Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, um, a lot of times you know we do take for granted the women that are in our life. Um, you know they're so good to us. They look out for us, give us good advice, take good care of us. You know it's a shame that we have to have one month, so we got to do a better job at making sure that we show them appreciation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree 100%. It's not just about this one month. It's got to be a year-round thing. We got to show the women that we love them, we support them and that we are here and that we stand beside them and behind them.
Speaker 1:Indeed, and so we have dedicated this episode for you, ladies. Now we're going to talk about a few different things, but for the most part, we do want to show your appreciation. We're going to show you just some of the things that we don't typically discuss, mainly because it's pops and son okay, it ain't pops, son, mama, daughter and all that, so. So we have a lot of fun with it. What direction you want to go today?
Speaker 2:Let's start with. Let's start with the women's impact on culture and society. Ok, I think that's a good place to start because, when you think about it, in recent years women really been dominating Like they've been crushing it. You know when it comes from, you know sports, even to politics. You know, shout out to Kamala, and when you get to Kamala, there you go. So, wow, I really said that wrong On women's appreciation. My Lord, have mercy. Hey, we corrected it. Man, so we're good. Okay, so yeah. But when it comes down to the sports man, you know, you got Cocoa Golf. Angel Reese doing her thing, clarissa Shields I actually have written a few articles about these athletes because they've just been crushing it man, just setting records and breaking barriers, breaking down norms. So we definitely got to highlight that and give a shout out to the women.
Speaker 1:And these are all sisters right.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yeah, you know that.
Speaker 1:Got to make sure that we make mention that these are sisters that are doing big things. And you know, historically, you know Black women, women of color, have been really amazing once they had opportunities. They've taken the opportunities, excelled and made a beautiful path for those in front and the ones behind, making them very proud. So you know, let me ask you how you feel about the sister. Do you remember Condoleezza Rice? You remember?
Speaker 2:her. I remember hearing that name growing up a lot, but that was. You know, I was. I was younger so I wasn't really into the politics and things like that, but I do recall she was the first was a secretary was it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah she. You know a lot of people don't remember, because you know she starts talking about politics. Man, it can go left and right, no pun intended, but the but, the fact of the matter is just having a footprint in in politics, which is, you know, an opportunity to represent the community and the voices that are typically underserved. The community and the voices that are typically underserved. Nobody is going to do everything to where everybody's going to like it, but positioning yourself to ensure that again there is a footprint in politics in our government, which also gives people hope, you know, it gives people awareness that people of color, specifically women of color, you know are making their mark and I feel like they're representing really, really well, and so you know we have to acknowledge that and keep it going, because if not, then you know what, what would be, what would be our women's goals in the moving forward, Because it doesn't just, you know, stop there.
Speaker 1:So, even with Kamala Harris, you know, vice president, ex vice president, Kamala Harris, you know, vice president, ex-vice president, Kamala Harris, you know she represented, and I think that encouraged, a lot of people of color, men and women, and you know it doesn't stop there just because you're not the president doesn't mean that you can't make impact in the government, in the community. So the opportunities are still there and it doesn't stop just because a specific position wasn't hit. You still can make impact.
Speaker 2:I 100% agree with you, pops. Everything you said, 100% true. The representation for women. Just me, seeing it through my male eyes, my male perspective, I've always thought that, especially in our culture, black women I thought that some things were lacking. You know what I mean. So it's, it's really good to see the, the excellence, the elevation, it's good to see that. You know, through these different figures women can become more inspired, like you said, they have something to to towards and strive towards.
Speaker 2:Because you know, especially like in sports, for me there was no, you know I have plenty of figures, you know who I could want to aspire to be when it comes to the sports section. And then, you know, we have Barack a little earlier. So even then, you know, we kind of saw that, yeah, earlier on. So, um, yeah, definitely very good to see that the elevation has come so far and I know it's even going to go further than that, like there's there's no stopping it, there's no limit to it. Because one thing about women, you know, I know one thing about women when they put their mind to something, when they want to accomplish it, you know what I'm saying it's, it's, it's no stopping them. They have that, that fierce drive that you, that you see, and it's so evident by the, by the figures that we just mentioned.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, just to be clear, because we mentioned a little bit earlier, because we mentioned a little bit earlier, ms Rice was, she was the first female African-American secretary of state and the first woman to serve as national security advisor. So that that's major when you think about that, because she's well qualified. Oh yeah, she, she had to be qualified for that to happen and that's pretty amazing. So, moving on, I do want to bring somebody else up for you, Jay Candice Owens. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I know Candice Owens, I like Candice Owens, I like some of her, some of her takes and some of the things that she stands for. I know she could be a bit controversial but you know, that's just like I said, that's one of those things about women you know they're going to be steadfast in their beliefs and she really stands for something and I think that's even a good look. Yeah, because a lot of times women are painted, as you know, not able to be great leaders or maybe into emotional things like that. But when Candace Owens speaks, she speaks with conviction, she speaks like she knows what she's talking about, she got the facts to back it up and she's just being, you know, 100 percent authentic to who. She is, not being, you know, controlled.
Speaker 2:So you know, like I said, some of her tapes are controversial but I just, I just like the representation. Just another great, just another great model for women, black women, to you know, to say, hey, in a male-dominated space, in a male-dominated opinion, you know, I could have my opinion, I could have people agree and I could build something off of that. So, yeah, definitely, shout out to Candace Owens, for sure. And I want to say she in my class, in my generation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, around that same age bracket. If I'm not mistaken, she's somewhere around 34, 35. But you know, being able to pierce the public space as a public commentator, if you like her or not, she's well-respected in many communities, which is not easy to do in this world. So, yeah, shout out to her. So let me ask you this I want to know who are some of your favorite actresses, jay? Just name your top three, four top three.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go with, uh, megan good, I'm going to go with. Oh man, I'm forgetting her name. This is crazy. What is her name? I'ma skip her, I'm gonna go to. I'm going to go to, halle Berry, okay, and then for number three, oh man, I kind of like I don't know why I want to say Stacey Dash. I don't know why I want to say that that's not it, though, but that's not who was Shortcut? She famous for the Shortcut. Okay, nia Long, nia Long, yeah, that's who it is. Yeah, that's my top three. Megan Good, nia Long and Halle, yeah, I think that's my top three.
Speaker 1:Hey, looks like you got a type.
Speaker 2:They're great actresses. Every role I see them in, they kill it, every single one.
Speaker 1:What about you Pop? So you know, and those are some beautiful women as well. They just happen to be very, very beautiful women in my opinion as well, very beautiful women in my opinion as well. So when I think about actress for me, I think about you know, and being an actor. I look at, you know, body of work, longevity being diverse and just, you know, kind of embracing that characters are where you almost can't separate them. So I'm going to go with the obvious Angela Bassett, okay For sure, legend, and you know it's tough to just drop three because I have so many. But Sinai Lathan is definitely a favorite and she's been a favorite, definitely a favorite, she's been a favorite. I would probably go with Viola Davis. She's strong, she's convincing, she just embodies every character that she does. Those ladies are definitely veterans in the game. You know honorable mentions like everybody that you mentioned, I would say honorable mention. But there's so many amazing actresses that you know and, to be fair, you know I got to drop Pam Greer up in there, man, come on now.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, pam is too. Hey, hey, that's Pam been holding it down for a long time and you know she paved the way for many sisters of Melanation, as I like to say. So, yeah, man, I think that we have a lot of talent. The actor world, the actress world, the film industry is full of talent, even the new ones that are coming out. You know, zoe, I think Zoe's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, she is good, yeah, and also like Regina, there's a few Reginas. Yeah, she is good, yeah, and also like Regina, there's a few Reginas. To be honest with you, you know, of course you got Regina King, but so I like all of them Regina King, regina Hall, regina Hall, of course, and so you know, well represented in that industry, man. So I think that's cool Again for you guys. Tuning in it is officially, we're deep in women's appreciation month, which is the month of March. We're just showing love, paying homage, I think, another direction. I want to go real quick, jay, before we move on to some other things. Uh, let's, let's, how about your favorite top three artists? Musical artists, any?
Speaker 2:okay, okay, any genre, um, yeah, you know, I gotta admit that I think, while I do support a lot of the hip hop, that the ladies putting out a lot of it I don't really think is for me. But I will say Glorilla, I like Glorilla, glorilla got some good guys, glorilla got some good guys. Hey, yeah, gorilla got some good ones. Let me go to you know, sza. Sza's been killing it. Yeah, sza is like, she's the one right now. I think she's like the closest thing that we've gotten to like a Beyonce type superstar. And then, of course, I gotta go Rihanna. Yeah, I gotta go Rihanna. Okay, yeah, it's only right, but it's so crazy because Rihanna hasn't put music out in so long. She's just like straight business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, straight business mogul, not long, she's just straight business mogul, she's just dominating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, music wise, those are amazing artists. Music wise, I'm going to go old school. I've always enjoyed Chaka Khan. You know she has really evolved. Like a lot of people don't know old school Chaka Khan and Rufus, but she, you know, she's been in the game and she's evolved and stayed relevant just because of the message in her music. Man, I think that she's one of the most talented. I'm also going to roll with Beyonce and I mean I have to show love to Beyonce just because of her versatility and her evolution.
Speaker 1:It's almost I don't want this to sound crass, but it's almost like you forgot about Destiny's Child man. It's like you almost forgot they existed because of her run since going solo. You know she's improved in her performance. Her vocals are off the chain and just, you know, being open to diversify her platform. You know she recently won what Country Music Album of the Year? She got a Grammy for that. Yeah, come on now, now. Now, who's doing that? I, I don't. I don't know any non-sister country albums that want a grammy. To be honest with you, we'll have to, you know, get our folks to do some research on that. But, uh, you know she's so she's. You know she's so she's a one talent.
Speaker 1:And then the last one, you know, rest in peace, man, my favorite artist of all time, female artist of all time, the great Whitney Houston. Oh, yes, and Whitney Houston had one of those voices that gives you chills, yes, voices that gives you chills, yes, and, and not because of her range I mean also you know, of course, her range but just the energy and the vibe she puts in her music. It's like all of her music is intentional. She never, she never put out any music. That was just. Let me just put something out there because it's been two months. Let me me just, you know, just you know, she has always been intentional, very well trained voice. I mean, you can tell that she actually puts work into her voice as well, naturally talented. So, you know, shout out to the late great Whitney Houston, shout out to Bobby Brown, man, god bless him.
Speaker 2:I just saw a video of him at a show. They say he look like Cedric. The Entertainer had me cracking up.
Speaker 1:Hey, you know what, though, with what that brother has been through, he can look like whatever he wants to. Losing a wife, losing a daughter man all in the same time frame yeah, oh man, that's tough, whatever it take for him to stay strong. And it's also good to see New Edition, one of my top two, top three groups of all time. So just to see them brothers man, still go for it, still have that zest in life, in their music is pretty dope. And of course, that fun fact, real quick, just came in Beyonce is the first woman of color to win in the history of the Grammys.
Speaker 2:Ooh, History, history Making history.
Speaker 1:Man, so she had to put some country music out there to do it, though, huh.
Speaker 2:Ain't that something I had to cross over? I had to cross over. Yeah, I actually had one more I wanted to mention for my because, when I started to think about it, who really got me into jazz. It was Ella Fitzgerald. You know, I was introduced to her music and it might have been elementary school, and I just was so fascinated with her voice. You know how she was like the range and then the scatting, and I just thought it was so dope. So from there I just kind of went down a rabbit hole. She has a lot of really really good music like soulful introspective yeah. So if anybody hasn't taken the time to listen to that, definitely got to check that out. You're doing yourself a disservice.
Speaker 1:Classic classic music. If you do that, you got to throw in Miss Lena Horne, you got to throw in Miss Hathaway. Just so much talent, just raw talent, At the same time very polished. Like folks wasn't playing back then man Like ain't no five, six do-overs, Nah.
Speaker 2:Take a break. They not making them like that anymore. That's why it feels so good to hear it. It's so refreshing to go back and listen to some of that older music from decades ago. It's really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure. And even today's music. I got a shout out because I went to a concert a few months ago. Um, samara, joy is is definitely in that vein. Now that that classic, just good, hearty talent, pure talent. So, uh, so shout out to, uh, to all the ladies doing their thing and continually doing their thing. So you know, again, this is a rabbit hole that we're not going to go through, because now you got rappers, I mean you got hip hop. You know we can go down here. Honorable mention got to be Queen Latifah. Oh, of course I think that she MC.
Speaker 2:Lyte, lil' Kim, even Nicki man. You got to give Nicki Minaj some cred. Oh, of course, the modern well, really, I mean the female rap wave. Like I said, women had just been dominating in sports, music, politics and you know, nicki kind of was really early on that. Now, of course, you know, you had Lil' Kim, but there was a gap, right, there was a gap. And then Nicki came on the scene and just kind of blew the spot open and then, you know, the floodgates opened and now we got women topping the charts in hip-hop. So it's a great thing. You can definitely see the inspiration there.
Speaker 1:Cause and effect cause and effect, cause and effect. So you know, continuing with the um, women's appreciation, uh, what's another topic that we can we can kind of wrap this up with jay that you think would be important, uh, to acknowledge this episode I think a good topic, um, just wrapping it up is um, how can us men support and uplift women?
Speaker 2:um, you know, women go through a lot of challenges, um, especially dealing with um. Just, you know, especially like in the media and things like that. Social media like, there's a lot of things that they face on a daily basis that you know they ask for support, they ask for help, they ask to to be seen in ways, and I think that us men just being more involved, actively listening to their experience, validating their feelings, because us men a lot of times we'll be like if we don't really understand it, it's not making sense, then we push that to the side, it's on the back burner, we're not tripping off of that. Push that to the side, it's on the back burner, we're not tripping off of that. But definitely we got to validate their feelings, and that goes from personal and professional spaces, in other words, just being their supportive, being an ally, being a person that they can confide in a safe space, so to speak, and just standing up even when they're not in the room.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, because that's another thing. You know, we can really alleviate a lot of the negativity if we continue to support while they're not around. You know it's got to be a continual and perpetual thing, just the same way that we shouldn't just carve out one month to say we appreciate and we love our women. You know we shouldn't just stand up and pander when they're around just to, you know, kind of try to get their good graces. No, we got to be about it 24-7. So I think that's the main thing when it comes to, you know, just supporting and uplifting them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's good. All I can do is really just salute. You know what you just said. That's a major thing being present, being there, supportive, whether you are, you know, in the same room or, if you are, you know, are just representing from afar. I think that's really good, and I think that it's also key that we communicate with them that they have the support. You know. Sometimes they need that affirmation, they need that confirmation that somebody has their back. That would help them, you know, get out of their comfort zone or at least feel more comfortable in what they're doing. So you know. So, again, salute to all of the amazing women. We salute you, not only Women's Appreci, but um every single day. So be encouraged, keep doing what you're doing and um and yeah, we love you and appreciate you.
Speaker 1:So, uh, yeah, jay, that's our show man.
Speaker 2:Um, so we love the ladies, we love the ladies.
Speaker 1:Look, check us out next episode. Uh, we appreciate you guys Once again, if you got questions and want to share some other information, hit us on the website. That's what the website's there for.
Speaker 2:Give them that information real quick, jay, you already know if this is not your first time listening, then you know to go to wwwpopsandsunconversationscom. That's going to be a one-stop shop. You can find our social media there. Uh, instagram is pops and sun conversations, tiktok, pops and sun convo. It's a little difference there. But, like I said, if you want to get in tune, if you want to get all the information that you need, go to pops and sun conversationscom. Concerns comments about the show, what you like, what you dislike, what you want to hear, questions, experiences. Whatever you got, throw it at us, because we're here for y'all and we appreciate you listening, checking in with us every week, and so that's what we got for y'all. Man, we'll see y'all next time.
Speaker 1:All right, blessings we out Peace.
