Pops and Son Conversations
Join US Air Force Veteran, Presidential Achievement Award Recipient, author, philanthropist, and social media influencer, Rob Malloy, and his son, author and model, Javan Anderson, as they navigate the generation gap with humor and heart.
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Pops and Son Conversations
Bros Before Emotional Silos: Why Men Need Each Other
Brotherhood forms the cornerstone of men's health, extending far beyond biological relationships. During this Men's Health Month special episode, we explore what true brotherhood means - those relationships where accountability, vulnerability, and unwavering support create bonds sometimes stronger than blood.
We share personal stories of our earliest brotherhood connections, from elementary school friendships that transcended racial and cultural boundaries to adult relationships that withstand life's transitions. These early bonds teach valuable lessons about acceptance, loyalty, and the joy of shared experiences that carry forward throughout life.
What separates casual friends from true brothers? We dig into this distinction, discussing how depth of commitment, honest communication, and willingness to have difficult conversations define authentic brotherhood. The delicate balance between supporting your brother and enabling negative behaviors requires thoughtful navigation - something many men struggle with.
Perhaps most importantly, we tackle the dangerous tendency toward isolation that affects many men, particularly during difficult periods. Community building beyond immediate friendship circles provides essential support networks that combat loneliness and foster growth. Whether through formal organizations, recreational sports leagues, or neighborhood gatherings, these connections demonstrate how "when men lock arms, nobody gets left behind."
Join our Patreon community at popsandsonconversations.com for more candid discussions about brotherhood and men's health, and stay tuned for part two of this conversation. Remember - vulnerability represents strength, not weakness, and true health encompasses mind, body, and meaningful social connections.
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Welcome to another episode of Pops and Son Conversations, and this is Pops, aka your favorite seal Fox, rob Malloy and.
Speaker 2:Son aka Mr Check Three Times. You already know it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man Jay, how you feeling brother. I'm feeling good, you already know it. Yeah, man Jay, how you feeling brother?
Speaker 2:I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good, feeling healthy.
Speaker 1:Okay, Well, I'm glad to hear that, because we definitely have something major. For those of you that do not know, June is officially National Men's Health Month, National Men's Month National. Give Us Our Due Month in June. It's official, Jay man, it's our month brother.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we out you. We out you man, we out you.
Speaker 1:Hey, you know, shout out to all the fathers out you, we out you. Hey, you know, shout out to all the fathers out there, obviously, all the sons, all the men. You know, national Men's Health Month is a special time in June where we have to start talking about and mentioning health, mental health, physical health. Just kind of encourage you guys to, you know, see your doctors regularly, make sure that you're creating peaceful moments, making healthier choices in life and, you know, building strong relationships.
Speaker 2:You know we don't talk about it enough but, jay, it actually shows up in our everyday life, uh, the choices that we make and don't make yeah, yeah, I 100 agree, you know, especially with with health, like it's it's so easy to to be unhealthy or make those wrong health moves or move, uh, health choices yeah, but you know, just staying conscious about it goes a long way. So I'm sure we'll kind of get into some of those good habits. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, good habits, not so good habits, and everything in between. So again, welcome to another episode of Pops and Son Conversations. And look, this is what we're going to do for you guys. We want you to continue to share our podcast, share our platform, not only with you know the fathers and the sons out there, but also with the mothers, the daughters, you know the cousins and all that. It's a family podcast and, even though you may not be a father or a son, it's information that can be shared abroad and we want to encourage you to continue to do that and we appreciate it and I definitely want to show some love. That's right Now let's get into it. Jay, where do you think we should start when we start talking about men's health and relationships and all that stuff, and where you want to go to that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I want to. I want to hit some that you know we don't. We don't really talk about a lot and I can really sum it up in one word, and that's going to be brotherhood. Okay, all right. So brotherhood is, is one of those things that you know. Some guys got it, some guys don't, some guys understand it. Um, when I think about brotherhood, you know, uh, you just think about the people around you. You know the people around you, your friend circle. You know who do you? You know who are you talking to your sports with? Who you? You know what I'm saying, who you hitting the bars with, stuff like that, you know, and the reason why it's so important, you know the reason why it's so important.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, it's it. It is one of those things that really just depends on, you know, your family dynamic. I, I know I have a few friends that you know may be like the only sibling who's a male. They may not have grown up with a lot of of male figures in their life and it may be a little challenging for them to kind of understand this brotherhood thing. You know, I have a few guys and you met them when we went down to Jack's, ben Ran, gary. You know those guys were guys that I met in like middle school. But growing up, you know, my dad was military and so we bounced around a lot, you know traveling. But growing up in Jacksonville, you know, the first, I would say, guys or boys in the neighborhood that I felt like was brothers. One was a Filipino kid by the name of Rod Shout out to Rod in Jacksonville man, the whole Sabio guys. And and also a white dude named Andrew, so shout out to Andrew Whalen. These are guys that I met at five, six, seven years old, you know, and I grew up in a very diverse neighborhood because mostly, you know, it was military, so it was people from all over the map and you know so.
Speaker 1:I didn't see color. You know, growing up I didn't learn about discrimination and racism and prejudice. I didn't know that until I was like a teenager almost. You know, in high school age I didn't know anything about that, you know. So I knew that the kids was different and you know people had different things going on in their family and you know, culturallyurally I peeped that. But as far as favoring Blacks or feeling some type of way about brown and white, I didn't go through that growing up. Jay, how do you feel as far as in the early stages, uh, meeting, you know, different young men?
Speaker 2:Yeah, in the early days, when I think back, um, I had a homie you know it's it's funny, cause these memories kind of are just resurfacing now but I never forget, yeah, it was, uh, it was a white kid named Josh Josh White actually, OK, it was me and I had another homie named Edward Fry, and so he was like a little chubby, little chubby kid, black black kid, and we all had what, no, what was the name. It was first. I want to say it was first grade. It was first. I want to say it was first grade. Ok, yeah, no, actually I remember back to second grade. We had Mrs Sheldon in second grade and we would just be in there, oh man, we'd be in there clowning, just you know, joking, laughing, acting goofy or whatever the case is. But those that like that's kind of my first memory of just kind of having like a little, a little brotherhood clique or whatever you know going into school and just you know, always being like, hey, what's up? You know, we was always hanging out in school and stuff.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, even, even that early on.
Speaker 2:You know I remember that. And yeah, it wasn't for me. It wasn't like a you know a color thing, or worried about race or whatever the case is. I've always just been one of those kids that likes to laugh, and anybody that can make me laugh, you know what I mean. We'll be good friends Because I like to laugh, I like to be goofy sometimes. So, yeah, yeah, shout out. Definitely shout out, man.
Speaker 1:I hope them brothers doing good Cause.
Speaker 2:I, I haven't, you probably haven't even thought about those names in a long time.
Speaker 1:Hey look, you got to reach back out, man, you got to reach back out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, but, yeah, rod and, uh, andrew, I talked to them from time to time. You know, I think that's why social media can be so effective, because you can. You can find some people that you grew up with you know what high school, with college, military buddies, and I think that that's a really cool opportunity. But you know what? There's a difference, jay. There's a difference between, like, friends and brothers and, uh, man, I think it's a. It's a big difference because you can have a lot of friends, like guy friends, you can have a lot, but there's always a distinction.
Speaker 1:Where you know people, you know you would call them your brothers. As far as brotherhood Now, I'm not talking about your siblings, but I'll talk about you know, this is my brother and sometimes you know those brothers, uh, from your brotherhood, you know is you know the saying is, uh, they say blood is thicker than water, but, man, sometimes, uh, you meet some people that's even thicker than that. Right, they're close to you to have your back, they're nonjudgmental and, you know, can you think back? Or maybe even today, you know someone who you would consider like a true brother, but you guys aren't related.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Of course, as a matter of fact, one of my close homies, one of my brothers, just let me know the other day that he proposed and he's getting married in August. Yeah, in August. So he put us all in a group text like, hey, this was going down. But yeah, so I got, you know, I got, let me see, it's one, two, three, probably about four that I would consider my brothers and we've just been close ever since high school. We all went to the same, yeah, we all went to the same college and we just got mad, mad memories just you know of, just you know, really kind of supporting each other, watching each other grow, having each other's backs. You know the parties and the fun and all that stuff is in there in between too, but definitely a lot of late night conversations and just really hashing some stuff out and holding each other accountable, which I think is a big part, an important part, of having a brother and having that brotherhood.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure you know you don't have any biological brothers, man. Hey, sorry, sorry, I couldn't help you out, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean yeah, but that's the thing too. So it's, you know. It's even more emphasis on that when you don't have any but you find somebody that's kind of likable, like you said. You know, blood couldn't make us any closer. You know what I mean. Sometimes you get that type of that bond and relationship and one of your homies and it's like man, you know, that's my dog, like that's my road dog, you know. So you know, still thankful.
Speaker 1:Brother from another mother for brother from another mother. Hey, you know, I have one brother shout out to, to david, you know you got your uncle there and you know, uh, when it comes to that, you know we have I think we're like 10 years apart, you know, uh, he's the, he's the oldest, I'm the youngest and of course there's two girls in between us and you know my story is with my siblings. All of them, they was, they was step step ladder kids. Right, they were, they were, they was one back to back to back, and so then I came along, so I didn't really grow up with them. By the time I was like eight, nine, 10, you know they was, they was already up out of there, you know, doing their thing.
Speaker 1:And so a lot of our relationship building came as adults, you know, especially when I got out of the military, when I got out of the military move back to Atlanta, or move to Atlanta, rather, you know he had, you know, relocated to Atlanta and you know he had relocated to Atlanta and you know, of course, our parents were there and that's kind of how we built our relationship, you know, as adults, responsibilities and you know just kind of shared, you know some, some moments, you know. So we started spending a lot of time together going to we went to the US Open, man. We went to the U Open. Man, we went to the US Open together. We went to a lot of basketball games and stuff like that. Matter of fact. Matter of fact, man, we have three championships together. Man, shout out to the Smyrna Rec League, where they had the over 30 teams, they had the community teams. So, yeah, we had uh, we, you know, played for the the community um teams and man, yeah, we won.
Speaker 1:We won three chips in a row that's dope yeah and uh, that brought us together, obviously, and you know, just a camaraderie and it's, it's been a great experience. You, he's I would say he is extroverted. You know I'm a hybrid. You know people don't think that because when they see me usually I'm talking, but yeah, he's very extroverted. So, you know, when he's around he's talking to stuff like that, I get a chance to just be quiet, ain't nobody.
Speaker 1:I get a chance to just be quiet, ain't nobody. I don't have to make anybody laugh, you know I can just, you know, let him do do his thing. So I think that that's, you know, that's always fun. I will consider my brother my best friend and you know, of course, my best friends, I would consider them brothers and my brothers. My brother knows my best friends, I know his best friends and you know, man, it's been a pretty, pretty good journey. So, as I'm thinking about it though, jay, let me ask you this man, like, what does brotherhood mean nowadays as far as day ones, versus, you know, new friends? You know some people are like no team, no new friends, like I really understood that concept because as you elevate, you better be getting some new friends on different levels.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's mandatory.
Speaker 1:It's mandatory, so I mean, you know when. When you start hearing, you know about day ones versus team. No new friends, man, what? What comes to mind? What are your first thoughts?
Speaker 2:so when I hear that I, I think that the uh, the no new friends to me is kind of like, just maybe, just like a little, uh, a little old to all right, you know loyalty and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:You know people want to say that when, um, because a lot of times I guess we perceive that any new friend won't be as loyal as your previous friends because they don't have really any skin in the game, like they haven't seen you at certain points, y'all haven't been through anything, um, which isn't always the case, but I could see that. But, um, definitely, day ones, man, you know that's that's, that's your partner, that's who, that's who was there when, when you, you know, maybe you went through a bad breakup and you know the homie was there. You know what. Know what I'm saying? Get you, help you get back on your feet or get over that, or you know, let you buy 20 bucks or y'all went out and they covered the tab. You know stuff like that, just those, those memories that you have, that it's like you can't, you won't forget, and you, you, you can't replace that, that type of camaraderie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you know, something stood out what you said, kind of like the accountability partner. You know, speaking of accountability, you know I think it's important to talk about, you know, in our communities, kind of beyond the barbershops, beyond riding bikes and and the group chats and things like that man. So how important do you think you know community is, with not only the you know you click your homies and stuff like that, but just men building a brotherhood outside of those close ones and actually being active in the community. Like how do you feel? Like where does that stand? How does that rate with things nowadays in your opinion?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's a big deal. I think a lot of men have a tendency to isolate, especially when we're going through stuff. You may be going through some things mentally, emotionally, spiritually. Best way is never going to be alone. Right, you're going to need to surround yourself with some good energy, some good people. Get out in the community, around, some guys that you know what I'm saying can help you. You know, work through whatever it is, it's major, majorly important, and the reason why is because once we see, you know, once you do that, it breathes a new outlook for you, right, and so you're also able to teach the next, you know, coming up and kind of create a new cycle. And you know, as black men I see a lot of times, you know, we don't tend to want to express or want to or feel like we need to lean on somebody.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, but that's like I'm saying, like that's the exact opposite. Right, we got to work more towards being okay with, you know, calling a brother up or calling a homie up, and just understanding that, the same way, you know, a lot of women have those. You know the women'll have their little girl nights where they go and get the uh for sure, the ice cream, and uh, that's right man exactly.
Speaker 2:You know we gotta, we gotta create a community like that, where it's okay, you know, to be a little vulnerable and or, or you know, to express yourself and just express how you feel, man, like not not bottling it in, and just get it out, because you know it's always better out than in.
Speaker 1:Man that is so powerful and I'm glad that you said that. You know when we start talking about community again, you know beyond just the people that we know and went to high school with and things like that. You know as, as young men, you know we grow up as adolescents and young adults and sometimes you know people move out of the community. You know you go to college, you go to the military, you start a business. You know you move out, you do different things and it's almost like If you stay in the community, it's deemed that you're not making any moves. If you don't go travel abroad, if you don't go create, you know different businesses and things like that that you're not as successful. So I think that one of the reasons, or another reason rather, is in that community, building those relationships, because, like you said, man, we have to prepare the next generation as well as be innovative and be strong and build up where we are now, and so building that community is not, you know, just to stick around and said, hey, you know what, I stayed around, I did this, I was able to accomplish this but to just kind of strengthen that foundation that you grow up in. You know you can't have an OG if you never taught anybody anything. If you're not a resource, then you know you. You can't be an OG resource, then you know you. You can't be an OG. You know, people always think the OG got to be the older guy and and you don't really know what his background is. But he just wise. You know, og man is definitely somebody who is very intentional about pouring into his community, about pouring into the youth, about holding everybody accountable. Like to me, man that is a, that is an OG man. That is somebody who cares about not only the future but embraces the past and understands that man. We got to make some adjustments to have a strong presence and to have an even better tomorrow. So, you know, shout out to everybody who you know understands the importance of building that community.
Speaker 1:You know, a lot of times, jay, you know, when you stick around in that community it gets real interesting because you may see somebody you went to high school with that you didn't really know, or you know grade school or something like that. But now they may be, you know, be the sheriff, they may be a political position, they may be somebody like the superintendent in education, they may be one of the CEOs of one of the larger corporations that employs and empowers economically the community. So I think, man, that alone is so important, why we have to continue to build these strong relationships. They don't have to be your A1, day ones, but, goodness man, make some solid relationships. So, when it comes to, oh, my son is looking for, uh, a good community center, or you know how can we participate and and making an impact in the neighborhood? Uh, because you definitely don't want to be in a situation to where, uh, it's, it's a a bad situation. Now you're looking for help. And that's the only time you're looking for help. You understand, right, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and now folks looking around like who is this guy Like you ain't. You haven't reached out, we don't. You know what I'm saying. But that's, you know. That's how it goes and that's part of why things can become fragmented the way they are. But in reality, if everybody, you know, is more connected, then everybody can grow. Everybody you know is more connected, then everybody can grow. Everybody, you know, it's really that village type of mentality and that's why, you know, just like a real brotherhood, you lock arms. You know nobody could fall off, nobody gets left behind. You know what I mean. So, yeah, super, super important for the community aspect. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:So I wanted to ask you about this is I kind of mentioned a little bit earlier, but let me pose this question to you Think about this loyalty, what loyalty looks like in your brotherhood versus enabling? Because you know it's a little different side to it. Because you know, sometimes you know we want to be loyal, but then you know we got to hold our brothers accountable and not just kind of let stuff slide. You know, sometimes so like, have you ever been in that situation where you was like man, look, I want to tell bro this, but you know you like, you get what I'm saying, yeah, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:You know it's tough, man. You just have to kind of make that decision because your buddies are always going to feel entitled. You may even feel entitled Like man. I've known you for 20 years. Don't look out for me, meanwhile, you know they may not even have the credentials or the background to you know. Look out for me, meanwhile, you know they may not even have the credentials or the background to you know. Put them in position.
Speaker 1:So I would say, loyalty is so strong and it's about, you know, being transparent with your brother, you know, being real with them, being able to just, you know, actually communicate and talk to them. And if you can do that on a consistent basis, then it does help with when you, when you, might have to make those particular decisions. I just think that a lot of times when you have a relationship, especially you got some age to it, some some tenure, if you will, you know your guys are going to feel entitled, you know. But the enabling part, I think that comes with the communication, because you have to, you have to talk to him and say, hey, man, you know what? I can't give you anything for me. That's, that's bad business. Yeah, that's something that I can't even build a future on, because people are looking at me as somebody in position to be able to do things and you can hook up your people, you know, all day long you can hook up your homie and stuff like that man.
Speaker 1:But you definitely don't want to be that one that just fixes everything. I mean, even when it comes to money, man, there's situations where somebody might need, you know, some money, but then you also realize, look, this brother got bad habits right. So you know, start out at $10, $100. Now you're talking about you need $2,000. What you need $2,000 for, what are you doing where you $2,000 in the hole? That means you got some bad habits. I can't just give it to you. That will be enabling your whole troubleshooting and resolution process, like you got to feel it sometimes and man. So you know the loyalty thing for me, man, is just always being transparent. You know there's going to be some times where, of course, obviously they need that and it may be bigger than them.
Speaker 2:So it may be some family issues.
Speaker 1:It may be you know something to get them. They're right there and instead of them going outside of the crew, then you know you had that intervention. You know, and I think interventions are really important because I don't want to be on a one-on-one situation and my guy mad at me because I ain't drop him two stacks Like hold on, man, let's get some other folks involved here. Not that I don't want to bless you.
Speaker 1:But if we can get five guys together, no burgers. But if we can get five guys. You know that two stacks is 400. But more importantly than that, you got five guys that are going to hold you accountable. Now.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's why that brotherhood is so important, man, so important. So, so I thought, I thought about this one too, while you were, while you were speaking on that. So so, in that situation, that's your day one, right? Yeah, so think about this. Can you do you think you can outgrow your day ones, or should you outgrow your day ones, or could? Could it come to a point where it's like because it's hard, you know what I'm saying like you don't want to. You don't want to have to leave your day once behind. Y'all was swimming, you know, in the kiddie pool, in the sandbox, it's the sandbox Walking through the woods, man that's what I'm saying Picking up lizards and frogs, putting them in jars and stuff that's wild.
Speaker 1:Exactly, I think that there's some natural occurrences that happen. Like I said, people, you know, you grow up and you have different paths. You go to college, maybe you start working, maybe you start a business, maybe you're in the family business, maybe you travel abroad. You know the military. So I wouldn't say that you necessarily outgrow them in terms of you know the significance of the relationship, but I do think that you know sometimes, as you get older and you transition into adulthood, you know you can, you can have different paths and you really never know how to properly navigate.
Speaker 1:Just because you may have huge differences Like when you start getting older and you start you know high school and college and military and things like that you realize a significant difference between then and then when you was little kiddie, kids you know throwing a mud balls at each other.
Speaker 1:You know you, you start seeing that as a, as a person develops, they find different interests, you see that they may start rocking with a different crowd. You kind of see those nuances and the differences between you, but you always keep that friendship. That's why, again, I think the communication is so important because I'm sure you have someone or a handful of guys that you know you don't talk to all the time, but when you guys do connect whether it be via phone or through social media, whatever man you like catch up, you have a good time. You know you genuinely concerned about you, know you have a good time. You know you genuinely concerned about you, know their progress in life and you know the family and stuff like that. So you know, I think that that is a very unique situation. Each relationship, each friendship is unique and you have to look at that one at a time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was good, I agree, I agree 100%. You just especially with the aspect of because I kind of experienced that myself One of my homies he was the first out of the crew to have kids. You know he had a little girl and then he had a boy and none of us had kids. So you know, kind of watching him go through that, you know what I mean Transitioning into being a dad and kind of you know, having to not really be able to, you know come out as much and things like that. But he was still the homie, like he's still the day one. But you know you just kind of adjust and you know things change. You know you grow differently and you have just different obligations and responsibilities, but you always be the homie though.
Speaker 1:Always be the homie man. You know that's interesting how, when you think about it, you know there's different fraternities, there's different male groups and stuff like that that you know focus on, you know building a brotherhood. But I think that the significance of those is having that structure, you know, like looking out for your brother, making sure that you know you're present, you know not judging but at the same time holding each other accountable. So how, how important do you think you know those type of groups? You know whether it be fraternities or just kind of community groups. How do you feel about the significance of those? Jen?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's essential. You know, I think those type of groups do so much for men, for the community, just for the psyche of men and just, you know, to understand and frame a reference of how the world works and how it can go. I think it's important to seek that out. If you have an opportunity to get involved, definitely go for it. I don't see any drawbacks toward that. I think that they do a great service overall. I didn't get a chance to pledge anything but you know I always admired, you know that brotherhood and I know you know a few Greeks, so always, always solid guys and you know they have a real good foundation and just understanding of how important it is for men to connect and for men to really lock arms and get some things done.
Speaker 2:So, just having that mindset which, like I spoke about earlier, it's a lot of guys that try to thrive in this isolation or try to do things alone, but we have so many examples of how it can be. When you work together, you know, when you come together, when you, uh, you know, create a, uh, a community and a brotherhood man, you, you know what I mean. It's it's the sky's the limit. You know, we got plenty of examples.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 1000%. If you really just take those principles and apply them and understand how important it is to have an accountability partner, like it could be as simple as you know for me. I remember a handful of guys. We would always meet up several times to shoot ball. You know to play ball, you know every Saturday, definitely, but you know we would have like our Wednesdays, wednesday nights, and then you know, friday, saturday type thing, and I remember man number one that kept you in amazing shape, man. Matter of fact, man, we need to go play some ball, man, we need to go get out there and shoot some hoops. There's a couple of courts we can go to, so we're going to have to have like a whole situation out there, but I think things like that.
Speaker 1:I remember playing for a group of, or playing with a group of guys and we would pray before we played and people would be looking for jobs, and I remember that sometimes, like we would even have like ministers and we had a pastor. I remember pastor E shout out to pastor E I'm going to have to look him up Cause it's been a long time, but you know we used to play a direction, and when I say we used to get we I'm talking about five o'clock. 5 o'clock, we got started. We would play until about 5 to 8. Some people have to leave and get to work, man, but just the camaraderie and then you're playing ball, so you're having fun.
Speaker 1:It's competitive. Sometimes folks want to swing on each other. You can't have no guys and nobody not want to swing on somebody in the course of playing ball. If you guys have been in this group for months or years, it's going to get really competitive and intense. And, man, I kind of missed that man and I used to just think, man, we would play Monday, wednesday and Friday five o'clock in the morning and it would be nothing, jay, to get up at four, four, 30 and drive you know, 20 minutes, 25 minutes, and then go all out and play ball. Yeah, that was, that was a pretty amazing yeah, it feel good yeah, it feel good.
Speaker 1:You wouldn't even trip, and of course it would. It would hurt, but it would hurt so good afterwards yeah like that's the'm saying, that's the best sleep, the best naps.
Speaker 1:Yes, man, you can eat anything and it wouldn't even bother you. Recuperate your whole digestive system and immune system and recovery system is on a whole another level. So, yeah, man, I used to love that, I used to truly love that. So, you know, know, got to get back into to doing that, because if we feel this way, jay, there's got to be a handful of guys that also feel the same way oh yeah, for sure just looking for somebody to uh, to initiate and then, uh, you know, join the team.
Speaker 1:So, speaking of joining the team, uh, quick reminder, we do have Pops and Son Conversations, patreon. Let me talk about the importance of it as we wrap up. The importance of the Patreon is to bring us together. It's a platform where we can have candid conversations, we can have some intense conversations, but at the end of the day, it's very intentional and we want to bring everybody from all different walks of life, different backgrounds, you know, even different cultural habits and traditions. We want to bring it all in one place where everybody that's there is supposed to be there, right, and so that's what makes it real beautiful. So, obviously, you know, you just go to the website, pops and sun conversationscom and you can check out the patron. You can join us, man, obviously, here in June, men's health awareness, man, we got a lot to say, a lot to talk about. Um, matter of fact, as we wrap up, man, we even have we're going to be doing a 5K coming up, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm excited about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm excited too, man. It's going to be a 5K walk for your pops, though man Ain't nobody what it's going to be a 5K walk. Man Don't even be thinking about seeing me jog. I don't know. No jogging, I don't know, no jogging I don't know, man, maybe I mean who knows we're going to cross the finish line.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a fact.
Speaker 1:That's. All that really matters, man, is that we start and then we finish strong. So, just like we did with this episode, listen, it's Men's Health Month, men's Health Awareness, it's just Men's Month. So we want you guys to stay locked in. Check out the next episode. Look like we're going to have to do this part. Two thing, man when we start talking about this brotherhood, we can't finish it in one episode, jay.
Speaker 2:Nah, nah, I can't do it. It's got to be a two part.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, let's do a two part. Hey Pops and Son Conversation your favorite silver fox.
Speaker 2:Hey, check three times we out.
Speaker 1:See you next episode.
