Pops and Son Conversations
Join US Air Force Veteran, Presidential Achievement Award Recipient, author, philanthropist, and social media influencer, Rob Malloy, and his son, author and model, Javan Anderson, as they navigate the generation gap with humor and heart.
On this podcast, Rob and Javan tackle a wide range of topics – from life lessons and fatherhood to current events and pop culture – offering a unique blend of old-school wisdom and new-school perspectives. Expect lively debates, unexpected insights, and plenty of laughs along the way.
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- Candid conversations: Rob and Javan share their honest thoughts and experiences, providing a refreshing take on intergenerational relationships.
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Pops and Son Conversations
Reconnecting Generations: Family Bonds in Modern Times
What happens when we disconnect from our family roots and lose the multi-generational wisdom that once flowed naturally through our households? In this heartfelt exploration of family dynamics, Rob "Sylvan Fox" Malloy and Javan "Check Three Times" dive deep into what it truly means to build a home that nurtures both individuals and communities.
The conversation begins with a provocative comparison between role models and mentors. While today's youth have unlimited access to inspirational figures through social media, they often lack the personalized guidance that comes from dedicated mentorship. As Rob eloquently explains, "A role model can be someone you see and never meet... but a mentor specializes in helping you navigate through whatever you're interested in." This distinction becomes increasingly critical as young people seek not just inspiration but practical wisdom.
Family reunions emerge as another vanishing tradition with profound implications. Beyond the joyful celebrations, these gatherings once served as natural networking hubs where relatives discovered the diverse talents and resources within their own bloodline. The hosts share personal stories of warmth and connection at family gatherings, emphasizing how these moments create lasting bonds that transcend physical distance.
Perhaps most poignant is the discussion about the wisdom contained in our elders' simpler approach to life. From therapeutic porch talks to the mindful appreciation of nature, these practices offer powerful antidotes to our overstimulated existence. As Javen reflects on his grandmother spending hours simply observing flowers in her garden, listeners are reminded of the grounding presence our elders provide.
Whether you're seeking to strengthen family connections, understand the changing nature of community leadership, or simply reconnect with the wisdom of previous generations, this episode offers both nostalgic reflection and practical insights for rebuilding the foundations of home in the modern world.
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Okay, welcome to another episode of Pops and Son Conversations. As per usual, it is your favorite Sylvan Fox, Rob Malloy.
Speaker 2:And it's Javen, aka Tech Three Times.
Speaker 1:There it is, and welcome to another episode. Jay, how are you feeling today?
Speaker 2:I feel good. You know, I feel good. How about yourself Pop?
Speaker 1:I'm good, and the reason why I say that is, you know we just got through June Men's Month, men's Mental Health Awareness Month, and hopefully all is now forgotten. You know all the support, you know all of the clickbait, mm-hmm. You know hopefully we didn't just have bandwagoners that are hopped off already, because you know we're in June now, so I mean we're in July now, so hopefully you know we've we've met some, some very, uh strong allies, if you will, when it comes to, uh, the support of us men.
Speaker 2:Because you know, we need it, man, you know so, you know, I was thinking about.
Speaker 1:You know, since we're in heavy into, uh, july, um, you know, when it comes to the patriotism and and things like that in july, man, I think that there is a lot of identity crisis going on. You know, people trying to figure out, okay, what did? What does the holidays really mean? You know, uh, what's behind it. You know, uh, why are we celebrating? Do we have the right? Are we up? You know, celebrating appropriately? Yeah, no, are we celebrating appropriately? Is this just a pagan holiday?
Speaker 1:Whatever the case is, july is one of those months where you kind of think about what does this really mean to me, culturally, historically, community-wise, ancestrally? So I kind of want to dig in a little bit about the home, the family dynamic, and you know, just, maybe we can name it like home is where the heart is. Oh, yeah, home is where the heart is. You know, we're not trying to do a Hallmark card, you know, but we are trying to make sure that we do realize the importance of home Because, jay, let's just be real, we hear more about broken homes than we do about homes that are actually staying together and creating legacy. Am I right or wrong?
Speaker 2:No, you're right. You're right when you're right.
Speaker 1:No, you're right. You're right when you're right. A broken homes is a topic, a trending topic, right. But you know, we have to really talk about the dynamic of the homes, because industry, or staying in that field and what I mean by that, jay, is, you know, your great granddad he, you know or your granddad is in the Navy, right? So I went into the military, my sister went into the Marines. None of y'all went into into the military.
Speaker 1:I ain't mad at y'all, though, right, I ain't gonna lie, I wanted to, though, right, right, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't have been mad either way, because you know, uh, there's a lot of evolution, but at the same time, there's always those intricacies of the unknown. So you don't know what would happen if you did go in, even if it was something that you wanted to do, meaning job wise, if you wanted to travel and things like that. So, but me, growing up man, I remember that it was so stressed that you follow in the footsteps of your family. So if there, if you are a family of lawyers, you better get ready to go to law school. I don't care if you want to play basketball.
Speaker 1:If you will want to become an athlete or if you want to do something different, you go into law school. Your mama, your daddy, went to law school. Your great granddaddy went to law. You go into law school Now you. Your daddy went to law school, your great granddaddy went to law. You're going to law school Now. You can figure out, after you get your law degree, what you want to do, after you get your practice, what you can do on the side. But no, you're about to be a lawyer. You're about to be in law enforcement. You're about to be in politics. You're about to be in sports. Even sports man, even the lineage of sports, goes a long way. So you know. So let me ask you, jason, what do you think when it comes to, you know, the parents being the first leaders and being that example in the household? Do you think that that is a good thing because they're paving the way, or do you think that could be traumatic because of the pressure of the generations afterwards?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, it's one of those things where it could go either way, and it's really a lot of times it's going to be on the parent to kind of foster what the child's reaction is going to be.
Speaker 2:But I do think overall it's a good thing though, because either way there's some type of structure there or there's some type of influence.
Speaker 2:I would rather have been in a household where my parents did something for me that they thought was going to be in my best interest, and maybe I didn't necessarily agree with it 100%, but I mean, I don't think it's anybody out there that's mad that they have a law degree or that's mad that they got, you know, they're a doctor or a nurse or whatever, or they're playing, you know, in the NBA because their parents were so hard on them.
Speaker 2:Like, I don't think they're mad at that, but you know, in the NBA because their parents were so hard on them. Like, I don't think they're mad at that, but you know, at the same time, it's just got to be something that the parents are considerate about. But on that flip side, where you talk about the pressures, oh man, yeah, I can see that too. So overall, I think it's probably for the best, and I think a lot of parents do mean well. But it's just one of those things kind of case by case, but overall I think they mean well and I think it's probably better just for that structure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll add to that, because not only the structure because that's what they know, right, there's routines, there's a blueprint to be able to be successful in that lane, but also you got to think about the resources, the people that they come across, right the business owners, the CEOs, the VPs. You know the connections, ceos, the VPs, you know the connections, and so, really, it's a great opportunity to have that under your belt, because even with that, even having that structure, the access to resources, there's always going to be that black sheep that's not going to do none of that, right, there's always going to be. And even if it's a black sheep moment, like you know what, now I want to do that, I want to figure it out on my own. Thank you for paving the way for me to do that, but I don't want to do that at all, and so what can happen then is they, uh, uh, the the parents may feel like, hey, you know what, you're breaking up the legacy here, right, and plus, you're not even a master at what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:So if you want to be a musician, right, you want to do something completely different.
Speaker 1:You want to be an actor, you know. You want to go into, you know, maybe a different type of vocation, school or something like that. They're going to feel like you're off course, but they're also going to feel like they can't help you, and so I want to kind of dig into the difference between a role model and a mentor, that this is one of my favorite subjects I like to talk about, so that this is one of my favorite subjects I like to talk about. You know, we just recently launched a mentor, a mentorship program starting with young man at 12 years old, called the EG League, so you guys can go to Pops and Son and kind of get some more information. But you know, I love talking to the, to the youth, about the difference between a role model and they and a mentor. So, jay, when you think about it, but what comes to mind of the importance of both, because I do feel like both have their place, but what do you know is the difference or what comes to mind when you think about both of them?
Speaker 2:so, right off the bat, I feel like role models are more of, like, your public figures. Mentors are going to be your personal ones, right? So your role models, uh, that might be somebody and you know this, this phrase has been coined, uh, recently your, it may be an influencer you follow online that you just think is somebody cool and maybe you identify with them. You see something in them that you don't or, like I said, you identify. So you know, maybe they're doing something that you do that you don't see a lot around you, or a lot of your friends don't do. So it kind of makes you feel, um, you know, a little bit more acceptable, like, okay, this is maybe I'm not this, this weirdo that, like that's into such and such, because this person I see is into it as well.
Speaker 2:But, um, a mentor, on the other hand, you know that's somebody that, like I said, it's a lot more personal. That's going to be somebody who sees your potential and is even going to hold you accountable to it. They'll give you feedback. A coach is another good term I like to think of when you think about what coaches do to their players. What coaches do you know to their players, like how they, you know, maybe sometimes be a little bit hard on them, but it's only because they want to bring the best out of them and they see the potential and they want to help them grow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I agree with you 1000%. I always tell this story Anytime I talk about mentorship and role models. I remember being booked to uh, to host a rooftop party in Minneapolis, minnesota, and it was a bunch of ladies I'm not going to lie man, it was probably about eight to ten ladies that was in this area that I was in the lobby of the hotel because the rooftop was at that hotel and then there was like one guy. So I'm looking at the dude like, hey, man, you, you got to stay here, like we got to be eye to eye, we got to be on the same page. Even if it's just for this moment, set aside our differences and how you feel, we got to be on the same page.
Speaker 1:And I remember, you know the conversation just talking about the difference between, you know, um, a role model and a mentor and and really I was talking more so the importance of a mentor in our communities. Because a role model you can have a role model be someone that you see and never meet. It could be an athlete, it could be an actor, it could be an author, it could be somebody who you know is really popular and that could be a role model. But that role model isn't necessarily taking you through the steps of success in whatever you're interested in. And so that's where a mentor comes into play, because they specialize in helping you navigate through whatever you're interested in. And so if your dad sells cars, if your dad is a mechanic and you want to get into IT, well, your daddy can't help you, meaning he can't teach you.
Speaker 1:But I think what he can do is he can bridge the gap and get you access to that resource, bridge the gap and introduce you to a mentor. I think that will be extremely powerful versus feeling like, oh well, he ain't your daddy, or I'm always be your dad, and you know what I mean. And that can kind of defuse any type of animosity when it comes to that kid or that young adult really want to thrive in that field, and not feeling like they're going to disappoint their parents because they're not going into whatever that industry is through the lineage. So I think that that's extremely powerful. Mentorship is not easy Like. In order to be a mentor like you, you have to go through mentorship yourself, so you have to know what that process is like. You have to understand that each individual is going to be different. People have different learning curves and you have to be extremely flexible with all these different personalities.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree. I think that today, I think we have a lot more role models than mentors. I think we definitely have a lack of mentors and I think even that, when we talk about the generations, I think there's a disconnect there. I'm not even sure if you know they understand what. You know what a mentor is or how to, how to find one or how to seek one out, or you know how to to even go about that. You know what I mean. So, yes, it's definitely something that you know there's. There's got to be something done. There's got to be something done. You know what I mean and I know there's different programs and you know. I think we'll probably get into that a little bit later in the conversation. But, yeah, I agree with you 100%, pops. Mentorship definitely got to be on the forefront, something that we got to keep pushing it and having conversations about.
Speaker 1:You have those conversations, and I think that these are the type of things that we need to look at. When, when we're doing the family reunions, and that that's even sounds foreign, right, like, when's the last time you went to a family reunion of yours? Yeah, I ain't talking about a good friend of yours that said that you know they're gonna be cooking ribs and everything I'm talking about. Actually, your family reunions, and family reunions don't have to be eight, nine generations and don't have to be 200 to 300 people. You know, at the cookout with t-shirts on right, family reunion can, can literally be that people that you have not met in your, in your lineage, in your family tree, it could be just everybody being at the same place at one time.
Speaker 1:For a change, like those, to me, are family reunions that truly matter. So when we get into that, when we talk about the parents being the leaders, that's something that we need to hold ourselves accountable for. That's something that we need to hold ourselves accountable for. Like you know, I want to see my aunts and uncles and cousins and siblings, because you know they're adults and they live in different states, and let's let's make this happen, because it's so easy to get caught up in your own family dynamic and you guys are, you know, going to the lake and you guys are going to to uh, you know the mountains and and taking trips across seas and stuff like that, when you have a whole generation that truly may need you and at some point you may need them. Now you're in their city, now you're in their state, now you realize you have a cousin who was the mayor.
Speaker 2:Now you realize that you have a cousin who's the mayor.
Speaker 1:Now you realize that you have a, a celebrity stylist aunt. Now you, now you have, you know, uh, mr, check three times in atlanta yeah, connect the dots to atlanta. You know, can I come to one of your shows or something, bro, what's happening?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah, see, that's that's you know, that's so important. When we see connecting those dots, though, right, right, this is, you know this. But this is also something that I think a lot of people just you know is lost on them, and we talked about that structure earlier, about in the household. But this is another. This is like another, just like expansion of that right, it's not even a structure, it's more expansion of that, right, it's not even a structure, it's more like a ecosystem, right? So, when you're able to, you know, touch down and connect, you know, now you have a model of you know what I'm saying of the network, right, yeah, so, yeah, man, I think that's brilliant.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure, you know that's something that we have to be very intentional and remind ourselves, remind those family members that are good at organizing, and really make things happen. It doesn't have to be on a grand, huge scale. We could just start with, you know, a handful of family members at a time and build from that. So I want to encourage you, know, all the listeners out there that you know, family reunions does not have to be 400 people and you go and you, you rent out, you know, parks and or not rent out parks and just taking over the grills oh, man Right, you don't even have a permit. But you, you using all six grills at the park. Man, it's supposed to be public. Cut it out, man, knock it off. But in real life, though, I do love those opportunities that we can take. Those are so important. I've never been in any type of family gathering, family reunion or whatever the case, and not feel heart warm, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:My heart is always warm. I'm always happy to see. You know even my siblings, and you've witnessed this, you know, a handful of times. You know just the closeness and you know it's like, even though we haven't seen each other in months and months and months, it's like we never missed a beat when we're in person. So I think that's really important for people to always keep that connectivity within your family and your household as well, of course.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's beautiful. I ain't gonna lie Just sitting here thinking about it, reminiscing on them. Old days, man, you know you get older and it's like you don't see your folks as often. So you have all those, you know, those those great memories of you know y'all playing card games or board games or whatever the case is. But, yeah, that's, that's why it's so important to just to keep the connectivity, keep that wifi connection going, you know.
Speaker 1:Definitely. You know what I do want to pivot a little bit. I want to because I want to make sure that we get enough time for this specific topic. I want to talk about what leadership looks like now versus what it looked like then, and obviously we're talking about a few different generations, but I still believe the evolution. And what is the opposite of evolution? Regression? What is the opposite?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's, that would be one of the fair yeah.
Speaker 1:So I want the good, the bad and and candid about it, because leadership, even before my time being, you know a 70s babies and my parents you know being boomers even leadership to them look a lot different. It looks a lot different because they had, you know, martin Luther King Jr, they had Malcolm X, marcus Garvey you know that may be a little further back, but but they had, you know, jesse Jackson, ralph, david Abernathy. You know they just had a lot going on and and these people was not playing games, they put their life on the line, jay, to to stand up for the community, to stand up for rights, civil rights. And it's different, like, and we have to admit that it is different because this generation and some other generations, they, they don't believe in doing all that, so to speak. They want to figure out ways that they can do things different, right. So so now, if you talk about marching, if you talk about boycotting, if you, if you talk about doing different demonstrations, obviously it looks a lot different than it did in the 60s, in the 70s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, with the advent of things like social media and all that, we have a lot more avenues to kind of voice our opinions and, you know, congregate or rally or or even just to spread awareness. You know what I'm saying about issues that are going on. You mentioned those, a lot of leaders, but I would say some of the leaders of today that are kind of doing that. You got people like 19 Keys I watch a lot of his videos. Rza Islam does a good job of, you know, just kind of raising awareness and things like that. There's a guy named Wall Street Trapper that's raising awareness.
Speaker 2:So, and interestingly enough, these are all what you would call influencers or role models, and that kind of goes back to what I was saying earlier about, like, we have a lot, a lot role models, but I'm not sure if they're doing any actual uh, mentorship, uh, in the community. But, yeah, so so the leadership of of today is a lot different. It's not, I don't think it's as uh, physical or in person. You know it's a lot of, you know, people talking about issues or people, um, you know, you know getting mics and maybe doing a podcast or doing it, um, going live about it. But the actual work, I you know, I would have to agree with you that, um it's. There is a key difference there.
Speaker 1:I would say yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. And when you think about it, uh, it digs a little deeper, or did dig a little deeper back then, because we're talking about the actual household. They talked about the importance of having a mother, father, in the household. They talked about how important it was to have your grandparents in your household Right, so it talked more so about true family, uh, dynamic, like you can have a household of 20 people right now and then take, take that in perspective. So in today, our community laughs at the Latinos or the, the, the Indian and the native, how they, how they have big households. They talk about, oh man, how you got 20 people in your household like that, right, so think about it.
Speaker 1:We actually started that first. We started it first in our culture. You know grandma and granddad. Between the two of them, they'd have 20, 21 kids. They had 15 kids. Everybody had a job to do. So it wasn't like everybody's just laying around and and everybody got to go get a job. No, no, they was very domesticated.
Speaker 1:Agriculture was huge and just having a skill was was always, I would say, almost mandatory. Like you're going to be doing something right. You're going to literally have a skill, whether you want it to or not, whether it is the landscaping or taking care of the pigs or whatever the case is right, washing the farm, the side of the farm, whatever the case is, everybody had a duty. So as they gotten older and have their own families, you got to follow suit and think about this, jay. Think about this if, if you have everyone on that estate, if you will, on that farm, on that acreage now we're talking about serious generational wealth. You're not kicking people out to go get an apartment they can barely afford, just to come back to your house two years later, right.
Speaker 1:So now we're talking about acreage. We're talking about pooling resources so we can make a, we can continue to make a conglomerate within our family structure and dynamic. We may start out with 10 acres, but if everybody's doing what they need to do and we're raising funds and we have, you know we believe in group economics all we're going to do is continue to leverage that and we're going to have acreage in different cities and different areas. We'll expand where we're at, but we're building, and so now it makes a lot more sense when we talk about raising our kids. Now they don't have to go to a daycare where we're paying $400, $450 a week, and we're trying to get help from the government. Out of 450, they want to pay $75, right?
Speaker 1:So now we're utilizing grandma, grandpa, great-grandma, great-grandpa. They're now fulfilled in their older years, right? They're able to see their generations in front of them instead of, oh well, why my great grandbabies don't come and see me? Right, because now they're raising them, and so now we can pull again our resources. We can get whatever we want. We may start out with a farm, but now guess what, since we have money, we have education, we have resources, we have a diversity, you know, we're diverse within our own household, and so now we can have a law firm to extend the legacy. Now we can have, you know, a medical center. Now we can have a security agency within our own generation. So to me, man, that's what legacy, you know, is all about. Just really, you know, respecting our elders and you know our neighborhoods, doing our check-ins, and to me, jay, that's old school, that's old school.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, now you cook, Now you definitely cook, but I mean I don't know. So if that's old school, what's new school? I mean we don't have, we're not doing that. No more People aren't living under the household like that, doing a farm on an acreage, and things like that. It's a lot more individualistic. So I think we've lost even the concept of that. You said earlier. We laugh at when we see it like it's almost frowned upon or something like that, but really, in reality, it's probably the smartest thing that you could do as a family it has to be yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, when you think about it, even being chastised for having roommates. Now, as men, jay, we, we get no mercy. Now, ladies, you can all your girlfriends you know live in living in a four bedroom, three bath. It makes sense to them, right? They're going to save, they're going to pull their resources together, they're going to have groceries for days. They're going to make it happen. They're going to make that house a home for each one of those individuals. Now you got four guys in a four-bedroom, four-bath. What's that looking like on social media? What are they talking about with that, jay?
Speaker 2:Nah, man, yeah, you getting no mercy man, you, you got roommates, right, man, no, you got roommates.
Speaker 1:that's crazy, like like it's like you're not even supposed to do that, man, like you're supposed to be fully self-sufficient man, it's yeah, it's wild that's the world we live in, though, um, you know, and there's a lot of differences that we have to admit, uh, but one thing that I feel like is nostalgic, which happens with a lot of people when they go to their grandparents house or their great grandparents house that lives out there in the country that are minimalist, right, but they enjoy the non-polluted air right, the excessive electronics, and it's just a simplistic lifestyle that you can appreciate Birds, chirping, bees buzzing, mosquitoes biting.
Speaker 2:Fireflies at night. All of that.
Speaker 1:Man Appreciate birds, chirping bees, buzzing mosquitoes biting Fireflies at night, all of that, man, nobody can say and I'm just being just straight up with this Nobody can say that you don't get a sense of peace when you go out there to your great grandparents, your grandparents' house, Number one, it's going to be a drive, oh yeah, it's going to be a drive. Oh yeah, it's going to be a drive. And maybe not your parents, because your parents, you know, they move into the city for whatever, but your great grandparents and your great great grandparents, oh, you got to go to their land to go see about them, jay, you got to go to their land. It's a road trip, it's a road trip, it's a road trip.
Speaker 1:And I, and I love that because, when you think about it, man, those are the, you know, um, grandma, with the, with the, the cakes, the homemade meals, sweet tea, the lemonade, man, the food was just different over there, she's going out, uh, to pick up fresh vegetables out the garden. You know what I mean? Like, their food is organic. Oh, man, it's just a whole different lifestyle. And you got to think about those porch talks, you know, and the, the, the, the cookouts, the, the music, everybody dancing. You know, there's no neighbors for miles away, so you don't have to worry about anybody calling 12. That's a different life and lifestyle. And one thing that I do have to mention those therapeutic talks with the elders. Oh man, you can absorb so much wisdom, and sometimes it's not even a private talk. You just listen to granddad, great granddad, like, for instance, on father's day.
Speaker 1:You listen to your granddad spit game, right yeah, he was in game and he wasn't about hey, you know, uh, be a ladies man, don't settle, don't get. He was actually encouraging relationships and marriage. He was just saying you need you better vet better. Yeah, you better do, or you can get caught up in the matrix. So he did say that. But just being able to allow them to talk their talk and they don't mind, like all of the folks they'll talk, let them cook, hey, they, the folks they'll talk. Let them cook, hey, they're going to cook. Man, and look you, you better Sit back, relax and be quiet and soak in that knowledge. That's your best bet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, Insight. There's too much insight and wisdom to let go to us. I love hearing my elders speak. Man, it's one of those things where because I lost my great-grandma a few years back and I just kind of reminisce about her, you know, you think it's something trivial, but you know one thing that she would always do she would go out in the yard and just look at flowers, Just look at nature, and it took me so long to understand why she was out there for so long, Like she'd be out there for an hour. Yeah, I'm like man, where is she?
Speaker 2:Yeah she's out there looking at them, yeah, yeah. Until I got out there one time and I did I'm like oh, this is grounding, this is peace, this is you know. Just being out in this nature reminds you of who you are and you know and what you are. So, yeah, the elders man wisdom and insight, and never, never mistaken.
Speaker 1:Most definitely wisdom and insight and never, never mistake it. Most definitely. You know, uh, shout out to um, you know your grandma, granddad bob and d maloy.
Speaker 1:This is how you know it's old school when, when they say their names together that's how you know uh, mark and martha you know what I'm saying Abigail and Anthony, bob and Dee like that lets you know that they're one. You only have to try to figure out if they still married or they're still together, because you're saying their name as if it's one. Yeah, package, right, they packaged up. Man Speaking of package, look, we're going to go ahead and wrap up this show and man, listen, we want you guys to continue to give us some feedback on our show through all our social media platforms.
Speaker 1:We love the fact that you guys are subscribing to our Patreon. We love receiving the emails of just showing love and you know, some ideas. And, man, you know support is so important and we want to continue to make sure that we are servants and and getting the information out there to you all as well as a representation. So I'll tell you what we may have to. We may have to double up on this, this community thing. So I think that we're going to have to come back and talk about, you know, some of the things that have been effective, maybe some of the things that we can do better, some actionable steps that our community and our listeners can actually implement in their community. And, you know, just get some tips and, just you know, be the ones that start the impact, instead of just kind of waiting around for the leaderships.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it. I love it and I know they'll love it too.
Speaker 1:There it is, hey look, hey. We love you guys. Check us out. Next episode Pops and Son Conversations. Your favorite still Fox, Rob Malloy. Jvn aka Tech 3 Times. Hey, and we'll see you guys next time. Be blessed, we out peace.
