Join US Air Force Veteran, Presidential Achievement Award Recipient, author, philanthropist, and social media influencer, Rob Malloy, and his son, author and model, Javan Anderson, as they navigate the generation gap with humor and heart.
On this podcast, Rob and Javan tackle a wide range of topics – from life lessons and fatherhood to current events and pop culture – offering a unique blend of old-school wisdom and new-school perspectives. Expect lively debates, unexpected insights, and plenty of laughs along the way.
Tune in to Pops and Son Conversations and discover:
Candid conversations: Rob and Javan share their honest thoughts and experiences, providing a refreshing take on intergenerational relationships.
Diverse perspectives: Hear how Rob's traditional values intersect with Javan's modern outlook, creating dynamic and engaging discussions.
Humor and heart: Enjoy a show that's both entertaining and thought-provoking, leaving you with a smile and something to ponder.
Summer isn’t just a season, it’s a mirror. We start light, debating who’s built for heat and who needs the cold, then we get into what summer really means when life gets real: kids out of school, calendars packed, money moving, and everybody online looking like they’re on a nonstop vacation.
We talk fatherhood and summer routines from the inside, how camps, grandparents, and work schedules all collide, and why back-to-school prep is always closer than it feels. Jake shares what summers look like with a young child, and we break down the difference between “relax time” and “I planned this so I can actually breathe.” If you care about parenting, co-parenting, and building a stable home without losing yourself, this conversation hits home.
Then we go there: the dating energy in summer and how custody schedules can flip the whole vibe for single parents. From there, we pivot to entrepreneurship and the “grind time” mindset. When everyone else slows down, summer can be the best time to build your business, sharpen your network, and create something your community actually needs. We even make a big statement about summer camps: you can’t have too many good ones, because demand is always overflowing.
We’re also live from St Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands, sharing what we’re working on and what’s coming next. Tap in, then subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review. Are you using this summer to take a break, or to build momentum?
Welcome to another episode of Pops and Sun Conversations. And as always, it is your favorite silver fox, Rob Malloy.
SPEAKER_01
And you know who it is, son here. AKA check three times.
SPEAKER_00
Ta-da.
SPEAKER_01
That's right.
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, yeah. How you feeling, Jake? I'm feeling good. How you feeling? I'm feeling good. Look, man, we got uh something special going on. So I definitely want to go ahead and and jump right into this thing, man. Especially with uh where we're at and and what we have happening this weekend. Um how is your summer coming along? I mean, besides it being hot.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, so it's interesting that you talk about it being hot because I'm one of them people I prefer to be hotter than cold. I don't really like to be cold, so I think that my tolerance is way, way um on the on the hotter end. So it's hot, yeah, but I'm enjoying the heat. I like the heat.
SPEAKER_00
That's true. You you do like the heat, man. I mean, you you've pretty much been uh in the south, maybe, you know, a little bit of the Midwest, but you know, in the South for the most part. So uh I think it's it's in your DNA, man. It's in your DNA. For sure. You know, I think for me, my last duty station being in Anchorage, Alaska. I mean, that was some time ago, but I tell you what, sometimes you you're at a place for so long that your body just adapts, like it just wants the heat or it just wants the cold. And for me, man, I got to have a cold. I mean, you know that firsthand, man.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I I remember, I remember when you had came down um to uh visit, and you was you were sniffling, man. I hey you see you were sniffling, and I was I looked and I was like, man, this brother done put on a hoodie, man. Just around the house, Jay.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah. I I just yeah, that cold. I don't know what it is. It's like I'm I'm sensitive to the cold, so I feel like I get colder than most, but yeah, I don't get as as hot in the heat. So, you know, I'll take I'll take that trade off.
Speaking of trade-off, let's talk a little bit about you know the trade-off when it comes to you know the summertime. Like, what is it really about, you know, especially as a father, as a son, as a businessman, and things like that. Jay, let's talk about you know the summertime. Like, what is the summertime really about? Is it fun time or is it really grind time? I mean, let's dig in. Let's dig in.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I mean, let's let's dig in. I already have a couple thoughts just right off the top of my head when I think about summer, okay, and then especially uh being a father, you know, uh summertime has evolved for me. Yep. Um, you know, it used to be, I ain't gonna lie, it was turn up. Yo, it's it's time to turn up. We going out, we're gonna have fun. I don't care where it is, you know, who is with, but we we we doing something fun. Um, you know, because the summer just brings those those type of vibes, you know what I'm saying? The cookouts, the the friends, the late nights, the beach, all these different things. Uh, you know, it makes me think about summer. But, you know, I'll say um it has a it has a uh a different weight to it for me now. Um I would say that I do look at it as as um some grind. Like I feel like summer, summer, summertime is a good time to uh kind of get your stuff, get your stuff in order. You know what I'm saying? Summertime it comes around like, you know, it's like all right, it's it's like the middle of the year now, let's let's kind of track our progress and see what we what we got done and what we got to uh to finish. Right. So I think it's good to to set some some goals during the summer, you know what I'm saying, for the rest, for the rest of the year.
You know, when you look at it, of course you have to really look at your dynamic first and foremost. You know, and of course, we're coming from a a father and a son. So we're not talking about the single guys, uh, you know, but 40 kids and stuff like that. I mean, I think that's automatic. You want to, you know, get the most of what you can with with no obligations, kind of, you know, blow off some steam, of course, and and uh and just kind of reward yourself, you know, from working hard. But like you mentioned, you know, as you become a father, as you become more responsible, as you really start looking ahead, it's like, what can I do this summer with you know, a little bit more free time, a little bit more flexibility if the kids are doing summer camp or you know, off to uh, you know, the grandparents or something like whatever you got going on, you know, how can I really get ahead? So, you know, I want to talk more so about the grind. Like uh, you know, it's a lot, it is, it could be a lot of pressure, you know, because it's like uh you don't want to be the one not doing nothing. Let's be real, you know, it it's been uh one of those situations where it's almost automatic that you look on social media, people go to be, you know, across the waters, across the pond, interventional uh road trips, galore, and all that stuff. And it's you know, it's different for everybody because you may not have a you know, like educators, school is out, so they're not gonna sit around uh because they don't have to, right? So they're gonna, you know, kind of plan around that, but then you also have a business owner, you know, business is still happening, you have your peak season and things like that. So you have to prepare for that. So really it just kind of depends on what your dynamic is, but I do feel like there has to be, you know, uh an opportunity or you create an opportunity where if things slow down, if possible, then you know, get get some extra things uh happening. Like, you know, even for me, I would say as an entrepreneur, when summer comes around, I look at it like some things aren't gonna be as busy, you know, uh activities and and things like that. But you know, as someone in the in the in the film industry, in the acting industry, that's when you get a lot of work done, right? You know, so so you have to kind of um look at and prioritize what you got going on. Um, I try to plan my my calendar, I try to plan things, you know, in a in a six months to uh uh to a year, you know, if possible. So when new opportunities come in, you know, uh at least I already have my schedule so I can either turn it down or I can you know try to get it in, whatever the case is. But man, for me, I just feel like summer is is uh is a grind time, but to your point, it does change as you have different obligations and responsibilities. So you know, how does that work, you know, with having um a younger child? And I'll kind of go, you know, share mine a little bit, but for you.
So what what do you do during the summer with with Parker J most of the time?
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, so so it's interesting. It it really just depends. Sometimes um he'll go to to camp. You know, we like to put him put him in summer camp, obviously, because uh we both work during the day and he's out of school. So camp is is definitely cool. Um also sometimes he'll go back, he'll go back to the city, he'll go back and get some uh some time with with grandma. Okay, just just like I I did, you know, growing up, you go you go spend that summer with with your grandparents and stuff like that. So uh he really enjoys that and they do too. Uh, you know, so they get to get that time in. Uh and then in in the mean in the meantime, while he's there, I I get to uh I won't even say like relax and chill because I'm still, you know, I'm still grinding because you gotta think about it too. Like as soon as summer's over, you know, they're going back to school. So you you got school supplies, you got uniforms, you got school, school shopping and all that stuff to do. So uh, you know, you gotta keep that, keep that in mind just to make sure that you cover all the bases. So he, you know, he's it's set up for a good school year. Um so far it's been, you know, it's it's been it's been going good the past few summers, you know, routine has been cool. Uh I'm looking forward to uh as he gets older though, you know, he's he's six now. So, you know, seven, eight, nine, those summers uh I was I would assume look a little bit different than you know, three, four, and five or or whatever they taste. So uh, you know, I'm I'm excited about it. But all in all, summer, um, you know, it it's it's like you said, you you you if you do the right things, you plan it out right, you can have a good balance of grind time, relax time, play time, all of it. You know what I'm saying? You just gotta you gotta plan it out.
SPEAKER_00
Man, yeah, so I'm I'm gonna go ahead and and crack the bottle open a little bit in terms of okay get getting this in. Now let's let's let's dig
in a little bit. Now, I know for me, you know, in the dating realm, um I remember uh you know when I would date women with with children and they would be so excited about summertime.
SPEAKER_01
Oh man.
SPEAKER_00
And it's funny because you know, let's just say I dated three to four women in whatever course of, or maybe just had conversations with women, right? Not even necessarily date. I would say eight out of ten would be sending the son or the daughter or the kids to the baby daddy, right? And it's funny because you know, they would all almost have the same thing. Like he ain't did nothing all spring and winter and and all this. So the least thing he could do is is is let me have a summer. And I found I always found that interesting because you know, um, yeah, I was married for some time and things like that, but I do remember when I wasn't married and you know, I I had uh uh you know took responsibility of of things during the summer, but but it will it would be interesting because it's like the the fathers, it we we want our kids. Like it's not we don't care. We leave them. Right. Don't even don't even wait for the don't even pick them up after the summer's over. Like we we got it, we're good. And it was it all it would always be funny, Jay, just how you know the ladies was like it's like they will transform to an to a different person just for the summertime. You understand what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you mean. Yo, I was just about to say that, you know, and this I hey I can only speak from my my perspective, yeah, but it you know, I agree with you. The summertime for for the single mother is like it's like uh well what what do you compare it to? Yo, like it's it's on and popping. Like it's it's it's it's on and popping. And you know, I mean, I hey man, I get it. You know, I get you know they be stressed out and right. You know, dealing with the kids and this, that, and the third, but yeah, when that's when that summer roll around, man, you bet you better you better buckle up. You because you know your position at that moment. You got the kids, and she about to be taking trips at all the parties, turn yeah, yeah, it's going down.
SPEAKER_00
And I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you what, I'm gonna add to that because it doesn't matter the age group, Jay. It doesn't matter if you're talking about, you know, 20s, early 20s, or even early 40s or 50s. I mean, and even you know, it's it's out there, you know, in the um, you know, 50s and 60s. You know, and it gets it gets really interesting because it's like uh it's almost like what happens during the summer stays in the summer. I don't I know that sounds crazy, but that's the best way I can explain it, you know, being on so I've been on both ends, right? So I've been on the end where you know I might be dating or getting to know somebody, and you know, it it's time she gets so excited packing the kids up, and I I can't wait till he come pick it up, pick the kids up, or pick the kid up, and then I've been on the um been on the other end where the daddy might not even be involved and she feels like she's stuck with her own kids. Oh man, so no fun, no, so now it's like you know, I got I got to ask my mom, and you know, she tired, and so now I mean, and I'm looking like hey, I can do whatever I need to do, yeah. I I don't I'm not gonna be here posted up with you. I mean, you know, things have changed, obviously, man, but but really that was my mentality because I felt as uh you know as a man that you know have multiple children, multiple mothers and things like that, uh, multiple children mothers, uh being in the military and all that, you know, I couldn't, I I really couldn't get all of y'all at one time if I want to just because of the logistics. Right. Right. So if I'm in Alaska, yeah, I'd have to, you know, send for you or whatever the case is, but you know, it just wasn't it wasn't conducive for everyone. So um, you know, so shout out to to the to the moms out there, to the to the out there that you know, they they make it they make it work, and and I love it when you get really creative, right? You start doing things locally, you start exploring, you know, what's right here in my back own backyard, you know, you start looking at some of the things that you know you can you can explore and discover that that you wouldn't normally do anyway, but because it's the summertime, you're like, you know what, I'm gonna make the best of it. Uh, and I tell you what, Jay, one thing that they wasn't gonna let you do is just stay cooped up in the house. Ain't nobody's having that.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, no, not at all. That's yeah, that's the opposite. I mean, you know, that's that's what we look forward to to that time, to that season for. You, you know what I mean? Everything about Summer says, man, get up, get out, and get some, get some going on. Right. What is that? Was that cell theory? What's on it? Um, but um, you know, it's just like, yo, get up, man. It's it's it's um it's motivation for for what you need to get done, is motivation for, you know what I mean, what what whatever projects you're working on, if you know if you need to get your networking done, whatever it is, it's um it's definitely that season for that.
No doubt. You know, and um I think it's important that you look at the summer as an opportunity. You know, I know that there's a lot of you know, folks out there, they they love to do all the traveling during the summer and you know, take the cruises and stuff like that. But I but I also think that again, as we talked about the grind, I think it's also the time where a lot of people aren't grinding, they're actually taking time off, they're actually uh you know decompressing and things like that. But that's a great time to start building your business. You know, that's a lot, that's a great time to start looking at, you know, how can I scale my business? Well, if I'm if I'm uh you know starting a new business, what can I do? I remember and my homeboys are gonna hear this, man, and and and that's cool. That's all right, that's what we do, right? But I remember talking to my homeboys back at home, and one of them is a coach, and uh the other one is um, you know, he's he's really good with people and in organizing stuff. And and I was trying to tell these brothers, I was like, yo, the summertime, let's before the summertime hits, let's try to put a camp together. Like, let's literally put a camp. I mean, one of them is a coach, so you know, so I'm putting that in the chat and stuff like that. I'm not getting I'm getting ghosted by my own homies, you know what I mean? So it's like and to me, I guess being you know, outside of you know, uh home, uh, I saw so much opportunity to where if you're there, you probably wouldn't, you probably couldn't see it, you know. So it's one of those situations where you're on the outside uh looking in, and then you're on the inside looking out. And and I'm still gonna say this, you know, moving into next year with it. You know, let's let's put a summer camp together. You can okay, Jason. Let's let's just do this as we wrap up. Now, now keep it 100 with me. There is no way you can ever have too many summer camps, true or false?
SPEAKER_01
That is no, yeah, yeah, that's true. There's no way you could you could have too many of them.
SPEAKER_00
It's typically an overflow. Now, of course, you know, you you you want to have something that is gonna be good for the community, is gonna you know help the kids out, give them some type of skills, some social uh uh interaction, but people are always looking for camps. Like when you think about you know, summer camps, it you have to find something that is affordable, you have to find something that's gonna be fun, and you and you have to find something that's really gonna be beneficial to you and the and and the child, and you know, something that that you can consistently really be able to do, and so man, it's like you know, and then of course you want the location, you want a quick location, you want it to be nearby, right? So um, you know, camps can only hold so many kids, right? Because you have to have the proper staff to be, you know, towards you know, the amount of kids and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01
So and they fill up quick, too.
SPEAKER_00
They fill up quick, you know, they're already attached to some of the schools and the school system, and so man, you know, we got to do uh a better. I I promise you this pops and son conversations will have a father and son summer camp 2027.
SPEAKER_01
Oh, let's do it.
SPEAKER_00
I'm guaranteeing you, and it don't even matter if if somebody else is trying to do something or already doing it, you can't service the millions of people exactly needed, so there's no competition, it's more like addition.
SPEAKER_01
Okay, I like that. How about that? I love it. No competition, only addition.
So look, uh, summertime. When we're not even gonna dig too much into it, but I tell you what, though, we are at a beautiful island right now.
SPEAKER_01
Hey, so smooth.
SPEAKER_00
So we got to get through it. We we are literally here, St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands. Uh, we are here on a mission. Uh, we are uh rocking out. We have uh October 2nd, we have a purple bash. Uh, it's gonna be uh amazing, it's gonna be a fashion show. So uh I'm hosting it. Jay's one of the uh the coordinators. Uh out to Dr. Kanuma, Dr. K. Big shout out to Stormy G. Uh man, and we just looking forward to uh a really good time. So we're gonna go ahead and roll out and look look for the pictures, look for the lives coming up, look for uh a good time. There's gonna be a lot of water involved, Jay.
SPEAKER_01
Oh, yeah, yeah. You'll see it. Yeah, y'all, y'all see a lot of a lot of green, blue, blue water.
SPEAKER_00
Right. All right, look, uh, you guys enjoy your weekend, pops the sun conversations. We're actually live and direct from St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands. We have a mission to accomplish. Don't forget, uh, those of you that are local on Island, Saturday, uh, tomorrow, make sure that you're in the building. Starlight, we're having the model casting call, uh 11:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. right here at the Starlight Lounge. Make sure that you bring your energy.
SPEAKER_01
Good energy. Bring them bring the island vibes, yo. We need that. Hey, we need that.
SPEAKER_00
Look, we signing off with your favorite folks from the Lloyd.
